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Hey everybirdie! So it's been a week since we had Pepper in to see Dr. J and Pepper got his Ivermectin. I'm not sure if it's working or not. I feel like I should have seen some sort of improvement by now. I read something here in another thread about a possible crop infection paired with the whistling/crackling noise with his breathing? The only thing is, is that he isn't adjusting his crop very often. We're going to try the steam with eucalyptus oil in a bit. We didn't have the oil before, so maybe this will help?

Maybe someone has an opinion on what else this could be. Whistling/crackling sounds in the lungs, and vibrating wings every once in awhile or when stressed. Appetite is fine, and so is his water intake. Readily accepts the tiny amount of seed I give him. This morning when I weighed him, he was 48.8 grams, so he's pretty hefty. Any insight on what this could be would be amazing! Thanks so much in advance!

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I thought the same when my canaries had air sac mites, nothing seemed to change after the first treatment. If it is mites the first treatment is supposed to kill the mites but there still may be eggs so additional treatments are needed. Sometimes the vet can transilluminate the trachea and see the mites or sometimes they may appear on a tracheal swab, but sometimes they cannot be seen at all so diagnosis is by symptoms. With my canaries at first the vet treated it as an upper respiratory infection and when they did not respond they were treated for the air sac mites and that did the trick. My female canary had worse symptoms than my male she was wheezing and clicking and coughing, I felt really bad for her, but through it all she never was lethargic and her appetite was not effected.
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I hope poor Pepper gets better
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Thank you so much, Cody! This makes me feel a bit better. I just feel so bad for him, crackling and whistling away. It seems like the whistling isn't all the time, but the crackling is. Hopefully I another week we'll see some kind of up swing.

How many treatments did your canaries have to get before they were better? And how did they get them? I'm so confused as to how Pepper even got them in the first place.
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I do hope little Pepper will soon have a full recovery from the mites.

Air sac mites are transmitted by:

Close contact with an infected bird that may be sitting nearby and coughing or sneezing onto other birds releasing a tiny mist of moisture that contains the air sac mite that then infect nearby birds.

Contaminated drinking water

Free living mites in the environment.
The mite crawls onto the head of a perched bird, enters the trachea, travels to the lungs and lays its eggs.


It is very important that all of your birds that have been around Pepper be treated as well.
Ensure you carefully wash the water containers on a daily basis and ensure the water supply is fresh and clean.

Take a look at this article: www.finchniche.com/features_airsacmites.php
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Thanks Deb, that article was really cool to read. I have no idea where they would have come from initially, but if it is in fact this, they came from somewhere. I had no idea that birds had a set of lungs AND 9 air sacs. That's crazy! I think I'm going to maybe try what Cody was saying about a second treatment with the Ivermectin, and see how that goes. I'll have to show his response to Lonny and see what he thinks, but that's more than likely what we'll do.

Also, are we able to give Pepper and Peatri's cage calcium in their water, or ACV while Pepper's had the Ivermectin? Or would that be an overload on his system?
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I'd hold off on the calcium and ACV for two or three days after giving the Ivermectin treatment.
After that you can start them up again.
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OK, sounds good. It's been a bit over a week since his initial treatment, and he hasn't gotten any more since. Thanks you!!!
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Thank you so much, Cody! This makes me feel a bit better. I just feel so bad for him, crackling and whistling away. It seems like the whistling isn't all the time, but the crackling is. Hopefully I another week we'll see some kind of up swing.

How many treatments did your canaries have to get before they were better? And how did they get them? I'm so confused as to how Pepper even got them in the first place.

I have no idea how they got them, I got the birds as a gift in Dec. 2015, they appeared perfectly healthy, I moved in June 2016 and the vet said perhaps they always had them and the stress of the move enabled them to take over so to speak. They needed 3 treatments and the vet used an injectable Ivermectin for them.
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Kristin, sorry I'm coming in late seeing this. It does seem unlikely to get air sac mites unless exposed to the outdoors somehow, but however they got it, I'm sure glad it was accurately diagnosed at this time and is all under control now ! Best wishes for a smooth recovery.
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