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Old 05-16-2017, 02:36 PM
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This just in on Max.

So I talked with the vet. Now a hint of back story. What started this whole thing with Max was he was out flying around and broke a blood feather. This was my first broken blood feather and I was spooked. My bird first aid kit said pull the feather, so I did. I called my vet office the next day (this was in the eveing when it happened.) and asked if I should bring him in. The response (not from my vet she as out) was as long as the bleeding had stopped it was all good. Fast forward to yesterday where she mentioned how trauma to the follicle might cause feathers to grow in and fall out quickly. So I thought this over and called her...she called me back today.

It is possible that that is the cause for Max loosing the distal feather. I don't recall which it was that I pulled but it was one of the two farthest out feathers. She thinks it is unlikely he has an infection from it. We briefly went over how to handle broken blood feathers. While they use to say pull the feather, now it is more, get the bleeding to stop and get them calmed down. If need be pull the feather then but very gently. She also pointed out how this really isn't bothering Max that much. He can fly and maneuver just fine and is happy and healthy otherwise.

I do still feel terrible about what happened. I do still stick to the belief that it was a mix of things that caused Max to have such a difficult time with his flight (and to a lesser extent tail) feathers. I stand by diet was a major part, as well as his improper wing clipping that had been done when I adopted him.

At this point the best thing I can do is learn from what happened and move on. It is nice to finally have an idea about what is going on.

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The fact that Max is healthy, happy, flying and maneuvering around just fine is the most important thing.
I agree that Max's prior diet and improper wing clipping also played a part.

As you said, with the knowledge you now have you can simply focus on moving forward.
I am thankful for each wonderful day you will have with a happy and healthy little Max in your life!
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The fact that Max is healthy, happy, flying and maneuvering around just fine is the most important thing.
I agree that Max's prior diet and improper wing clipping also played a part.

As you said, with the knowledge you now have you can simply focus on moving forward.
I am thankful for each wonderful day you will have with a happy and healthy little Max in your life!
Thank you

I was reminded today of how Max does really like having friends. Back when I was waiting to adopt him there was a pair in the cage next to him at the adoption place. He was all up on that side of the cage singing at them. When they were taken away (adopted by someone else) he was contact calling for them. Later he turned to singing to the mirror. When he finally got to meet Kiger he was the happiest little dude ever. NOW he can hear Star and Ziggy and spent the majority of this morning contact calling to them.

I took a chance last night and went against the usual let them chill for two weeks before doing anything rule. I offered them a palm full of seeds last night and to my surprise both eventually came down and ate from my hand. Both were tentative at first but Ziggy is more tame compared to Star and was the first to come down and start chowing down. Star followed. I was so amazed to have them eating seeds from my hand! Star nipped my thumb for no apparent reason once before going back to eating but it over all went well.

Part of me feels kind of bad about taking things as quickly as I have. They both have settled in quite nicely. I had been watching them on the monitor before hand and both were being little goofs running around their cage. The only thing I might be able to say is I am following their body language. They are willing to eat from my hand but that's as far as we are willing to go right now and that is ok. Also Ziggy at least is eating the fruity pellets. I think star is but I am not so sure.

Tonight I will try clicker training with Max and Kiger again. We will see how this goes.
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A side question;
I got a good look at Ziggy's leg band today. I don't know what it means but its a dark blue band with A49094 written on it. Any hints tips or ideas as to what it means?
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The year the bird was born is usually shown with a number that is printed sideways

There is a very good chance the band on your bird was bought through L&M Leg bands.

The company supplies bands for non-society breeders.

You can call the company and provide the information from the band to see if itss a band they sold.

If so L&M can contact the breeder to ask if they can release the breeder information to you.

L&M Leg Bands

I trust that you have/had enough experience with Max and Kiger that you won't rush Ziggy and Star.
If they were willing to sit on your hand for a snack already then that's perfectly fine.
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Thanks.

-sigh- I have a issue. Max and Kiger are not working with me on clicker training. With Kiger it could be because he molted out some feathers and just doesn't want to play...but with Max its because he can hear Star and Ziggy.

The first thing that comes to mind is I could try playing music to hide the noise Star (and maybe Ziggy...) is making. My concern with that is it would interfere with the clicker noise.

The second thing that comes to mind is take a break for x amount of time. Maybe wait a week for the novelty of new birds to wear off with them and then try to work with them again...but I don't know if that would wear off or if Max will continue to be focused on the possible friends on the other side of the wall. I could wait until quarantine is over but that wont be until the end of July. I am reluctant to let them go without training for that long because part of me feels like its one of the few ways I can interact with them directly and I don't want to take that away from Max and Kiger.

Then my own self doubt kicks in and I start to fear that I am not keeping things interesting enough with Max and Kigs....

-sigh- I think what I NEED to do is take a step back and take a deep breath. I wont really have time to work with Max and Kiger again until next week anyway. I just need to keep trying to work with them. Eventually they might get bored with the strangers they can hear but not see and turn their attention back to their human. They both could still be getting use to the different room as well. The spare cage I used as their foraging cage is in with Ziggy and Star. When I feel like I can be confident I wont need to separate Star and Ziggy I will clean it and bring it back...

There is another issue. Ziggy is being super possessive of the food I am offering. He does not like sharing with Star. Now this is only an issue because I have only the one hand in the cage with seeds. I think I will switch to a millet sprig going forward just because its easier for them to share. They don't fight over seed dishes or chase each other as far as I can see so I am reluctant to separate them yet but I am keeping a close eye on them.

I might give it one more go with Max and Kiger for the week tonight. Its not the usual for me to work with them two nights in a row but we will see what happens. I'm going to keep working with Ziggy and Star as they let me.
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It does get more complicated the more budgies you have in the house.

I think you're right that the change of room plus the fact Max and Kiger can hear Ziggy and Star has thrown them off their game right now.

Just continue to work with them on a regular basis as best you can. As things settle for them they'll start responding better again.
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Good news! Max at least will respond when I work with him and he cant hear the others. I just need to play music that wont get quiet...I think Kiger is doing what he did a month or so ago when he molted out some other feathers. He just is not interested when he is growing in new feathers.

I offered two separate parts of a millet sprig last night one by each of the two perches close to the cage door. Ziggy quickly went to one and after a moment of hesitation Star went to the other.

Someone was also rather comfortable last night around me as well.

Fuzzy photo is fuzzy...I will try to get better pictures of them this weekend.

Star is turning into a sweet little thing. Both are still skittish when I go to change their food and water but I cant blame them for that. They have only been here a week. Give them time and they will get use to me. We are working on the bed time routine as well. That again will take time. Max and Kiger have their way of telling me they want to go to bed (sleepy squeaks are so stinken cute!) Ziggy and Star are not there yet but they just need time to settle into a routine with me. I can not say it enough routine is a must with these little guys!
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A small update.

I made the call and separated Star and Ziggy. He was chasing her off and being way to aggressive toward her for my liking. This move actually helped. I can work more easily with Star and Ziggy in their own cages. Ziggy actually does step up and stay on your hand IF he doesn't have Star freaking out next to him. Star with some patience will eventually come to my hand for seeds on her own. It takes her a while but I just sat there counting and not moving.

I'm not sure how I will progress after this...I am leaning toward keeping them separate at least until quarantine is over and then seeing how they take to Max and Kiger. I doubt all four will live together peacefully. I know I am asking for trouble if I have two males and one female living together (Ziggy remaining separate...) All three boys might be able to live together but there is the issue of Ziggy being just about as possessive about food as Kiger. Yes Kiger is super possessive of millet. He cant have certain toys while Max is around because if Max shows interested Kiger will chase him off.

I have five weeks to figure it out. So we shall see...
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Great updates as you are getting to know everybudgies' personality.
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