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Old 04-04-2017, 10:58 AM
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You know your budgies' temperaments and personalities better than anyone and can easily adjust your methods as necessary.
Yeah, I guess. I am still trying to figure Max out, he just seems like a moody little thing.
I'm going to switch things up with where I work with the boys...this might be fun. For reasons I moved the spare cage into the living room. I am going to bring the stand I work with them on and see how clicker training works in that room. I don't know for sure because Max looses focus if he cant see Kiger, its a different room with the potential for more distractions. We will see how this works out.

Funny story, Kiger had a surprise visit to the vet yesterday, he had been favoring a foot earlier in the morning but was fine by the time I got him in. He did amuse the staff with his little 'dance' of standing tall and whipping his head from side to side real fast. He can go for a while doing this but he will only do this trick when he is SUPER excited about something. Don't know what he was so thrilled about with going to the vet...his heart rate was also on the slower side (something in the 200's where typically they are in the 300's at the vet, I forget the exact numbers). Everything looks/sounds good and Kiger is OK.

Something curious that I am pondering. Within the past few months I brought up something Kiger did to the owner of our local parrot store. He thought from the sounds of it Kiger is the more dominant of the two. Now fast forward to the vet visit yesterday where I mentioned how Kiger feeds Max. Vet thinks Max is the more dominant of two. I personally think they are fairly similar in the sense. They both have been seen as instigators to bicker matches. While Kiger feeds Max Kiger will also make it known to Max that this is HIS swing and Max is not allowed on it. Max on the flip side does sometimes back down and sometimes is the one who wants to be on THAT perch, and he will not share with Kiger. For now everything is ok (vet actually told me yesterday to keep them together). I just find their interactions interesting.

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Old 04-05-2017, 05:27 AM
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I'm glad Kliger's foot is fine.
His little "dance" at the vet's office sounds quite humorous!

It is interesting to watch the changes in personalities between budgies. When I had Sunny and Shelby, they were best buddies.
There was never a set trait of dominance by either one of them.
They swapped it back and forth quite frequently, much like you indicate Max and Kliger may be doing.

I'll be interested in how the changes in the training environment work out.
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When I had Sunny and Shelby, they were best buddies.
There was never a set trait of dominance by either one of them.
They swapped it back and forth quite frequently, much like you indicate Max and Kliger may be doing.
Exactly! Kiger might feed Max but he will squeaky toy it up at Max over a perch and Max will back down sometimes. Not always, he does throw his weight around if he really wants to.

Anyway last night I tired the clicker training in the different room. This being the room with the main cage. Kiger actually worked with me last night. We went through all his tricks with only the occasional episode of flying off to the main cage. He would then respond to the 'here' command and fly to my hand. Also the command 'perch' where he would go to the perch I work with him on.

Max on the other hand did not want to have anything to do with the play stand or clicker training. I will need to mess with where we work, I might just need to help Max become more comfortable with that part of the room. Caption cautious isn't as use to that part of the room as say on top of their main cage or the entertainment center.
Speaking of Max. I spotted the long tail feather growing in, and another 'baby' feather on the right wing starting in(its what I call his blood feathers when I spot them). YAY!
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Yaay!! That's great news about the two feathers you've spotted coming in on Max!
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Update!

Lets get the not so awesome news out of the way first. Max lost the one feather on the right wing that had grown in. It didn't break like the others have, it looks more like it had been molted out... however the end is rounded and not very long...I'm struggling to word how it looks. From the looks of things he is keeping the other new one for now...We are at almost 4 months on the red palm oil diet. I'm on the fence about what to do. On one hand I want to give him the full 6 months of the diet change to see if it is really helping. On the other he is clearly having no issues growing in any other feathers elsewhere but when it comes to the right wing...he has issues. That makes me think there might be something else going on. I am leaning toward wait and see. He can fly and now that he has more of his tail back he can maneuver a lot easier. All in all he is doing worlds better then he was when we first started having issues (I want to say that was 6 months ago)

The good news now Kiger is back to his usual eager self. He is still growing feathers in I think but he has his energy back. (we spent most of Sunday flirting with Max...) I do need to work in the room where the bed time cage is. Max is the most comfortable there and will actually work with me.

So last night I went through most of the tricks with Kiger as review. I am starting to work on 'loop' an extension of 'upside down' where I ask him to go more around the perch to get to the pointer. I also moved the stand out of the way and worked on having him touch the pointer on a flat surface (the covered top of the bed time cage). He was a little distracted but it was adorable watching him run around to touch the pointer.

I think I have a game plan for Max. Now what I was doing was asking him to 'touch' clicky treat. 'touch' clicky 'touch' clicky treat. it was in that second part where I was asking him to touch several times in a row before I gave him a treat was when he'd stop, and opt to preen his chest feathers instead. I'm going to take things back a step and only to the 'touch' ckicky treat. Hopefully he will start to associate the touch command with treat more solidly and that might improve things on that front. Fingers crossed. He was still reluctant at times last night but I hope with time we will see improvements.

I think the issue is trust. Or rather confidence the human will be nice. That is something that will come with time, work and treats. Lots of treats.
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A mini update today.

I am working on 'loop' with Kiger now. Also 'center' where I ask him to move to the center of the flat work area on top of his cage.

Max lost the other feather on the right wing. It looks like this one simply broke. :/ It comes as no surprise then that he did not want to have anything to do with training last night. I am frustrated for Max. I was really hoping these two new feathers would stick. I will update the vet...at this point I doubt she will opt to change anything, but with all his other feathers staying but those on the right wing...it doesn't seem right.
EDIT to add: I just looked at an older picture of Max and there might be some hope. He has kept the shorter primary feathers that are closer to his back. Those have grown in and have stayed. Fingers crossed!

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Update!

Kiger is now working on 'loop'. We are not at the point where he is going all the way around the perch but we are getting there. I have a little routine for him with the older tricks where I ask him to 'wave', 'turn around' three times, and then shake, all in order and then I give him a treat. I am still doing 'upside down' separate between asking him to do loop. So far so good. Also I am still working with Kiger while on a flat surface. I am still working on 'center' and 'touch' while on the flat surface. The issue I am running into is Kiger opts to attempt to forage while he is there. I half heartedly started working on asking him to put his foot on a thing (ether a different pointer or my finger) so I can work toward 'roll over'. That's a no-go for right now.


Max was being more reliable last night with the touch command. He worked his way quickly to three clicks before a treat and then I asked him to turn around and it worked out well. He did stop responding to 'touch' after a few times. I backed off when he started taking his sweet time to touch the pointer. He is still good about 'wave' and shake' so there is at least that!
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I think you're doing great!
Hopefully perhaps someday you'll be able to have someone take a short video as you work with Kliger and Max so we can all applaud the progress they've made.
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I'd love to share a video of them but I am not well versed in how to add videos yet to threads. I need to work on this.

Things are going just fine with both boys. I think I've figured Max out. He shuts down when he is done for the day. Don't know why it took me this long to figure that out. He did need to go back and learn that the 'touch' command = treats. He is now far more eager to partake in tricks knowing this. However when he is done he is done. Kiger when he is not interested will just fly off repeatedly.

Kiger is making improvement on 'loop'. I've made it a game for him to follow the pointer around the flat surface for treats. Max is starting on 'upside down'. I misplaced the ladder and I don't know if I will retrieve it and add it back to the things they work on...
Progress!
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Good job on recognizing Max's signal that he's finished with training for the day.

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