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Hello I am still new here so let me know if there's anything wrong with me posting here etc.

This journal is to keep track of Smol's training and personality traits, I'm hoping if any of you have suggestions you'll comment and help out in getting to know my new budgie!

Tuesday Dec. 6

This will be day 4 since bringing Smol home. Yesterday was the first day he really started to act like a bird again since the (what I assume to be) terrifying ordeal of being adopted. He responds immediately when any raised voices occur with his own opinion on the matter, and I've been non stop talking to him to get him to say "hello", which he's actually picking up. He's copying the syllables and the tones which is very exciting! Since day one he's completely fine with being perched on my finger, he rarely moves away from my hand and if he does he'll maybe take two steps to the left or right, never "running" away.

He's only been eating seed mix, which I've read is normal with baby budgies so I'm not too worried. I'll keep offering him fresh food and other treats until he realizes they're actually edible. Got him a couple of toys yesterday, which he's already starting to play with. I also bought him a cuttlebone and he seems to really enjoy sharpening his beak on it.

He preens quite often, and likes to stretch a lot. One thing that's a bit unnerving to me is he's started to sneeze a little bit, but in all other ways he seems quite healthy. I'm wondering if he's allergic to my dog He's currently pecking at his reflection on the little mirror perch that's in his cage.

Speaking about dogs, he seems pretty calm when Finnigan is around, if maybe a bit stiff. Finnigan is somewhat interested but isn't aggressive at all which is good. They'll get used to each other soon enough.

Thanks for reading! If you have any questions about Smol or have any suggestions about anything please comment!
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Hi.

I think it's a great idea to get a journal of Smol's journey with you.

I have a few things to mention which you may already be aware of, but just in case you don't it's always worth sharing hints and tips.

You may find Smol goes backwards a little as he settles in. Although he is perching on your finger now, sometimes it's because they're pretty afraid and are more passive when we first bring them little bird friends home. If this happens, don't feel bad at all. It's quite normal and you can just adjust what you're doing with him to what he is comfortable with. Some budgies are more content and social early on.

It would also be good to get him some different sized perches when you get the time as these will help exercise his little feet.

You could take Smol to an avian vet and get a wellness check. If he keeps sneezing, it could be something to have checked out.

A mirror can be bad for the mental health of a lone budgie, as they think they have a same species friend. It's up to you as an owner to watch him for signs of him becoming obsessed with it. It can also hamper your bond to him. It's always down to the budgie's personality, so it's a decision for you to make.

Please make sure that Smol isn't out of his cage when your dog is in the same room. Smol is rightfully aware about the dogs presence. If you allow them in the same room when Smol isn't in his cage, we can't ensure that Smol will be safe. All we can do is remind you of the dangers that are involved with having a dog and bird in the room at the same time.
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Your budgie Smol is very cute! Look forward to following his growth & evolutions.

I'm a new budgie owner (my bird is about 8 months old) and I have never had any mirrors in his cage and you'll read on these forums that mirrors can be both bad for your budgie, and bad for your bonding relationship. ... Budgies can become obsessed with their "mirror budgie friend" and get upset when the budgie in the mirror doesn't reciprocate their feelings.

Also, the mirror distracts them from bonding with you, because they will prefer to bond with their own species rather than a human. They think there's an actual budgie friend for them in the mirror. Some people will briefly introduce mirrors for a short amount of time during out-of-cage playtime, but I believe most people and experts in this forum keep mirrors away and don't have them in the cage.

Thanks for sharing your super-cute baby budgie.

** Update ... Therm & I were posting at the same time. The moderators here have the best advice. ....Re. perches: Petco is having a good sale right now (with free shipping with no minimum!!!) and the Manzanita multi-branch perches are a *Big* favorite of my budgie, and they have different branches of different sizes on the same perch. My bird loves them. They're currently on sale for under $5. And if you prefer to go to Petco in person, they will honor the online price. Just tell them & show them on your phone. Or, you can order online. ...I started with one of the Manzanita perches, but bought 2 more because my budgie loves them. The single brach Fir (10") and hardwood (8") are also on sale, as is the Grapevine perch. All great deals right now for the holidays.

Also... I really love this site that I learned about from this forum but I've not purchased from them yet: http://www.naturalbirdco.co.uk/ They're a bit more expensive, but I personally think a worthwhile investment. ... Had I known about them before I outfitted my cage, I probably would have purchased one of these "cage sets" ---> They have many to choose from, this is one example, it's $30 us dollars (not incl. shipping costs, which I don't know what that is) but it includes (6) items. Their perches and toys are very high quality with stainless steel parts. Worth knowing about if you're ever interested. I really love their work: http://www.naturalbirdco.co.uk/oursh...all-Cages.html (You'll notice some flat coin shaped perches in that set.... I recently bought 2 of those for my budgie's cage and he loves them.)
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Hi.

I think it's a great idea to get a journal of Smol's journey with you.

I have a few things to mention which you may already be aware of, but just in case you don't it's always worth sharing hints and tips.

You may find Smol goes backwards a little as he settles in. Although he is perching on your finger now, sometimes it's because they're pretty afraid and are more passive when we first bring them little bird friends home. If this happens, don't feel bad at all. It's quite normal and you can just adjust what you're doing with him to what he is comfortable with. Some budgies are more content and social early on.

It would also be good to get him some different sized perches when you get the time as these will help exercise his little feet.

You could take Smol to an avian vet and get a wellness check. If he keeps sneezing, it could be something to have checked out.

A mirror can be bad for the mental health of a lone budgie, as they think they have a same species friend. It's up to you as an owner to watch him for signs of him becoming obsessed with it. It can also hamper your bond to him. It's always down to the budgie's personality, so it's a decision for you to make.

Please make sure that Smol isn't out of his cage when your dog is in the same room. Smol is rightfully aware about the dogs presence. If you allow them in the same room when Smol isn't in his cage, we can't ensure that Smol will be safe. All we can do is remind you of the dangers that are involved with having a dog and bird in the room at the same time.
Thanks for the tips! He has 3 different sized natural wood perches, a plastic swing and a natural wood perch on the mirror. I had no idea mirrors might be a bad idea! Ill definitely keep an eye on that. He definitely isn't obsessed with it now at least, he hardly notices it really. He only pecks at his reflection for a few seconds and loses interest, and even then he's only done that maybe twice since I brought him home. And don't worry about the dog thing, I wouldn't even think about having him out with Finnigan in the room. Finnigan will get interested in the cage but back off with a firm "no" from me. He's a lot shorter than the cage so his face isn't right up to the cage either. And he is most definitely not allowed alone with the cage.

Thanks for mentioning about the backwards bonding thing too, I was thinking about that. I'll be sure to see if he shows more fear or dislike in the future, and in the meantime bring the training down a bit slower.

I'll watch the sneezing and see if anything else changes, if it gets worse or persists I'll definitely take him in for a checkup. Thanks again
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...I believe the dowel perches aren't that great because even though they're natural wood, they're uniform in size & diameter. Budgies need to have different sizes and widths of perches to grip so that their feet get exercise and aren't always perched in the same configuration on the same uniformly sized perches. Natural branch perches (which aren't machined from wood down to dowels) have lots of variance in diameter so that they're gripping a bunch of different sized (different diameter)of perches. There's something called bumblefoot and I think that's when they get sores on their feet from always gripping in the same spot because the machined wood dowel perches are uniform. (Maybe it's like if you get a blister because your foot is always rubbing the same spot in a shoe.)

(Hope that all makes sense.) There are some good stickies in Housing for Budgies that can explain better most likely.
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Great journal so far! I totally agree with the wonderful advice from Therm and BlueBirdNYC, they're absolutely correct. I'm glad he's doing well so far and has settled in after the stressful transition! Letting him have ample time to adjust to training and taking things slower is a great idea; even if he's comfortable with things, it helps build trust.

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Tuesday, Dec 6 (still)

Smol is still sneezing, and to be honest it's freaking me out. I just got him and I don't know what's completely normal budgie behavior and what isn't.

Trust me I have read all the articles here and otherwise about what budgies look like when they're sick, but it can be really confusing because there isn't any videos or visual aids. Like how much tail bobbing is too much? Smol will slightly move his tail up and down but I've read that it may be a balance keeping thing. Today Smol had a little incident where I went to take the mirror out of his cage and during he got out. I had to gently block him and have him jump to my hand so I could take him back to his cage. When I put him back, he was breathing heavily and definitely, noticeably bobbing his tail in time with his breathing. He may have even been panting? I'm not 100% sure. Shortly afterward he recovered and hasn't done it since. But he is still sneezing. Otherwise he is showing no signs of illness that I can see.

The worst part is there's a huge snowstorm happening right now and I'd be unable to take him to any avian vet until most likely next week.

Could really use some encouraging words right now, really really stressed about all of this. thanks everyone.
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Don't worry--try to relax.

It's normal for budgies to sneeze sometimes. As long as he's not doing it every single minute, like you might do if you're sick, he's probably fine. He could have gotten a bit of water or a seed hull in his nares that is causing him to sneeze. The thing with tail bobbing is that a little bit is indeed normal, it's when it looks exaggerated that it's a problem.

He likely was a little stressed about the trip back to the cage but that's normal, too.

He'll be just fine Try not to stress too much. Budgies can pick up on human emotions very well, so if you remain positive, he will most likely feel less stressed
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Hi

Smol is absolutely gorgeous - looking forward to hearing more about him!

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?.. I have read all the articles here and otherwise...... but it can be really confusing because there isn't any videos.....Like how much tail bobbing is too much?

This site has been an absolutely fantastic resource for me whilst stepping into the world of budgie ownership and I'm extremely grateful for all the wonderful stickies and prompt responses from the experienced members so please everyone, don't take this as a criticism because it certainly isn't meant that way and I'm sure that maintaining this site takes a lot of time and effort, but, if you ever feel that you have any spare time to improve even further this brilliant resource, then I also feel that the addition of short video clips would be so useful! Owners interpretations of statements made can be very subjective and a link to a video clip (e.g. This is an unimportant squabble / this could be the start of something nasty) could give a lot more clarity.
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My budgie was sneezing a bit when I brought him home. Not consistently but here and there. And he was fine. Also, I was worried about the tail bobbing too... but my budgie does it a little bit when he's balancing and also when he's chirping. It's not exaggerated so it's normal.

Keep an eye on your budgie's sneezing like StarlingWings said and go from there. But my main point is mine had some sneezes as well. ... There could be dust in the air and they sneeze like humans do.

And relaxing is definitely great advice. If you're nervous your budgie will sense this and be nervous as well. I learned this from experience. ... I didn't know what I was doing in the beginning and felt uncomfortable and I look back at videos of my budgie in the first month and he was mirroring my anxiousness. I was anxious so he looked anxious. ...It's funny now to look back at them, because now he's very relaxed (and a tiny bit bossy. .... You can take a deep breath. If you feel calm, comfortable, confident & safe... your budgie will feel that too in due time once he gets used to his new surroundings.

Also, you received some good advice about how budgies are docile in the beginning days because they're scared. My budgie stepped up on day one and I think it was part his personality and part fear.

I've had my budgie a little over 3 months and I can tell you it's ups and downs and takes tons of patience and going slow, and keep expectations low. I mean, it's not necessary to push the bird because it's all about the long haul. The marathon and not the sprint. ... They change and evolve over the weeks that they're growing and there's good days and bad days. Steps forward and steps back. Days where you think you've made progress, but then the next day (or days) it seems like they want nothing to do with you. This is very normal, as you already titled your thread "Moods"... so you have an idea what's up. I find my budgie wakes up in different moods each day and can have various moods throughout the day. I learned that following my bird's lead, he trusted me a lot more.
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