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Taming and Bonding Taming and Bonding is all about helping your budgie learn to TRUST you. This requires time and patience and does not happen overnight.

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I tried to ask in my other post, but got no answer.

How do I get my birds to come out of their cage?

They step up no problem when I have millet and will sporadically without. Hedwig will come out with millet only. So today, I thought it best to put some millet outside the cage and leave the cage open (the cat is locked in another room). Both birds have been quiet with it open. Should I continue to do this until they become comfortable or is this a no-no?

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I've merged your two Taming/Bonding threads and retitled the thread for you.

With regard to coming out of the cage, you can try a couple of different methods.

You can leave the cage door open (bird safe room only -- no other pets allowed in at all) when you are there to supervise.

Place a perch on the outside of the cage by the door.
The bendable rope perches work well for this.
(Just make sure neither budgie chews on the rope)

You can set up a little play area for Hedwig and Pigwidgeon with a couple of their favorite toys and a sprig of millet to entice them to come out on their own.

If the top of their cage is flat, you can easily use the top of the cage as a play area for them.

You can also work on having each one of them step up inside the cage and very slowly move your hand toward the entrance of the cage. If Pig hops off your hand, then she simply isn't ready to face the big world outside her safe home yet.

Work at Hedwig and Pig's pace -- they are doing great so far!
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So today I left the cage door open and both jumped out on their own. They seemed to enjoy it but I had to put them up to leave to an appointment. They didn't want to step up and wouldn't willing let my hand get less than a foot from them. Is this normal and eventually work out? Or do I need to take a couple of steps back?
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It takes time to get budgies to learn to go back into their cage willingly if they aren't yet good about stepping up.

I have untamed budgies that go back in their cage because I've used positive reinforcement training to teach them they will get a reward when they do so.

Initially, when I was ready for them to go back in the cage I would first dim the lights and pull down the shades in the room. If the radio or TV was on, I turned it off.

Then I would stand by their cage and ringing the bell on one of their toys while telling them, "It's time to go in your cage now!"

Once they went back into the cage, they were given a small bit of millet.

This method worked well and they now go in the cage when asked to do so without the lights being dimmed or the blinds lowered and the TV or radio can stay on.

Getting the millet reward is the best part of "going back home".
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I started backing off a bit as it seemed the birds were starting to stress out. So now, I put my hand in the cage with millet and let them come to me. Hedwig will step up to get the millet, then bite me. How do I discourage biting but encourage being on my hand?
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So today we tried lettuce and brussel sprouts. They seem to love them but haven't been able to eat them well. (Maybe they are and I just don't know how it's supposed to look. Hedwig will come out of the cage but she pants and seems very curious, looking around and such. She bites too. Sometimes pretty hard. I just ignore it and do what I was doing as if she isn't. Pig won't get out of the cage but will step up for treats. Both get excited when I come home but don't really want to be with me when I'm by the cage.

Please, I need advice on what to do about biting and how much I need to push them.
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As the 2 birds feel relaxed and at home with you, they will be more easy to train, or whatever you wish they learn. Your kids seem like they are doing well about the birds. The cat can be scary. Some are aggressive , some are not. I do not know your cat, so cannot say what he may do. May be a nice, peaceful cat. I like a couple of neighbors cats. Because they are friendly. Overall, all seems well at your place with the birds.
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It might be beneficial for you to begin Clicker Training with Hedwig and Pigwidgeon at this point in time. Using the positive reinforcement and giving them more focus should take away from the desire to bite as frequently.

Biting- A Learned And Often Avoidable Behavior

Using Positive Reinforcement in Training

Basics of Clicker Training
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Update on Hedwig and Pigwidgeon:

Recently, we had a major set back. I don't know if it's something I did, the kids did, or both. They wouldn't step up and were upset if I tried to go near them with my hand. I was getting them out of the cage to start bonding, but decided to back off. They still would take the treat out of my hand but would be leery. So I decided to work with it. I just left my hand with the treat in the cage, let them eat, and move it. Eventually, they would come and eat more. Well today, I finally got Pig to step back up and let her eat the treat. I would put her back and repeat. Eventually both caught on and when I'd put one down, the other was eager to jump on my finger for the treat. It was great progress!

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Hedwig still is biting. It seems somewhat random and somewhat not. It almost seems as aggression. She'll do it in any circumstance. She's getting a little softer on it so maybe I'm working it out. Any help with this matter would be appreciated.

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I never found a way to get Hedwig to stop biting. I simply ignore it or take away the treat. It seems to be working. She still bites but it's a lot less severe. I give them both time out of the cage. They prefer the top of their cage so I leave toys up there. I've decided not to leave any treats in the cage. They are for me to feed them so they see my hand as a treat. Pig is still very timid. She'll eat any treat that's in my fingers and sometimes step up. I've worked more with Hedwig because of it. I've had her out to bond a couple of times but it does seem to stress her a little bit. Right now I've just been laying her on my stomach while I watch t.v. I bring millet and a toy and she'll eat the millet after a few minutes. She seems to bite more when she's scared, but sometimes it seems like she's preening me. Sometimes it hurts so I'm unsure. They both LOVE brussel sprouts and are willing to try new things. They are absolutely acclimated to their cage. Nothing phases them while They are in there. They sing, squack, and play all the time. They also don't make a noise when we are in bed so They are perfect. Hedwig does seem to be a little aggressive. Is that normal?
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