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Thread Description:...and you rather buy 2 budgies or more!

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Old 02-09-2012, 02:03 PM
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Smile Why solitary keeping is bad for budgies/birds....

Hey,

I make this thread against solitary keeping for birds and hope I can convince some of the keepers who have just 1 to buy a second.
Maybe you think one budgie alone can't be tame.
But when you often take care of them, you can get the most birds tame.
And what do you think, it is better to have one tame budgie or more?
My budgies aren't really tame, sometimes they come on my finger, just my parrots are and they were never alone.
A single budgie who isn't tame (and there are many of this) is the most time bored, when you have a not tame flock it's very interesting to look what they do!
And my 4 are not much louder than on single .

I think nobody of you would like to be alone for all your life without another human.
And a mirror or a plastic bird isn't an alternative too.

And look how happy my flock is:
Meine Wellensittiche - Kann es wirklich Liebe sein? - YouTube

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Old 02-09-2012, 02:15 PM
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I like that.
Thanks for putting it together
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Old 02-09-2012, 02:42 PM
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Thanks. I also find that I don't have to worry about my budgies when I have to leave the house. They are happy with each other.

Budgies are like potato chips. You can never have just one.

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Once upon a time I was...

Only yesterday I was a happy budgie.
I sat in a warm nestbox,
surrounded by warming feathers and the familiar voices of my brothers and sisters.
Security and care under my mother's tender wings.
Only three days ago I was a content budgie.
Though I've been separated by force from my siblings and parents,
there were others of my kind who shared my fears.
We snuggled against each other and eyed the big unfeathered beings,
who paced up and down in front of our glass cases.
We got used to the fact that one of our friends suddenly vanished now and then.
The big unfeathered beings weren't able to get in to us.
To preen and cuddle each other is a good remedy against the fear.
Only a year ago I was a budgie.
Though I've been abducted from my new friends and brought into alien surroundings.
All around me strange unfeathered beings, whose size and voices scared me to death.

At nights I squatted alone in a dark corner, around me loneliness.
In my dreams my friends are with me, whose voices and warmth give me hope.
Memories are a good remedy against the fear.

Although after a while I realized that the unfeathered beings meant well,
I couldn't understand them.
Preening and cuddling helps to bridge distances.
So I took courage and began to preen the unfeathered beings.
Infinite ages ago I knew who I was.
Now I'm here, surrounded by darkness and silence.
The unfeathered beings visit me only very rarely now.
Did I do something wrong?
But how could I know since I can't understand them?
Just as they can't understand me.
The loneliness grabs at me and I am defenceless.
A void spreads in my head and in my soul.
Only sometimes in my dreams a fragment of a memory rises from infinite depths.
Fluttering of wings, familiar voices, a beak that caresses gently the thinning plumage on my neck.
I cannot hold these pictures, they slip away when I try to remember.
There is no remedy for loneliness.
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Aww! Thats so sad!
i have to disagree though. My Quito is very happy by himself, he makes his own friends. He tries to be friends with the other animals and has made his own little language halfway between budgie and english with a few wolf whistles mixed in.
Some birds, like my cockatiel do not like other birds and will attack them and those ought to be kept alone so nobody gets hurt.
That being said i am buying my budgie a friend, but not because i am worried he is lonely. I just have discovered budgies are the birds for me. I have a cockatiel and finches and for some reason they are both much more agressive then my budgie especially to the budgie the few times he has tried to make friends.
In some circumstances though, it is better to practice solitary keeping. Like in a case with aggressive birds.
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Old 02-10-2012, 12:15 AM
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I'm going to also disagree. Though I do have two budgies, I believe that some owners spend a lot of time with their one bird. I believe they are the best of friends. Yes, birds are together in the wild, but they aren't in the wild now. If you wanted to do what was best surely you'd not own them in the first place.
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It is important to also point out that some budgies WILL NOT get along with other budgies, and can end up being killed by their own kind. I had a male that was an outcast, and almost every week he would have feathers plucked out. He was the happiest when he was on my finger, always singing and regurgitating, but as soon as I put him back with the rest, he would go to the lowest perch and sit all by himself until he is kicked off

So point with this story is in certain cases, it is better for a budgie to not be with their own kind, but rather with a human campanion.

Another point that must be considered is cost. Getting a second or a few more budgies is doubling or tripling the cost of having pets. Most people whose first pet is a budgie for example cannot afford these kinds of costs, so having one bird that is pampered and well-taken care of is better for them than having four or five that are ill, or cramped in cages for instance
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Yay, this again.....
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Yay, this again.....
Yes, we have had this debate countless times haven't we? But I guess it is a hot topic that will continue to pop up now and then.
My budgie is 6 years old, happy, healthy and extremely active. She does not have another budge as a companion. I am fortunate enough to have a work schedule that allows me to spend lots of time with her and when I am not home, someone else is. She is rarely alone and spends most of her day outside her cage. I believe that if you are able to spend lots of time with your budge, they will be just fine. If not, it is best to get a companion for them. Everyone's situation is different and none of us should jump to conclusions or judge another member's living situation.
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great thread and message! i 100% agree.

on occasion, yes, some birds can be aggressive, and must be seperated but these cases are not at all the norm, especially unusual if the bird has been kept with other birds his whole life as he should be! a human may be able to provide a bare minimum of interaction if they put in plenty of effort and have a household that allows the budgie not to be caged, but there will still be days where this will fail and the budgerigar will be lonely. and of course, a human simply cannot provide the same type of relationship as another budgie. another consideration is the first few weeks/months that he is untame, and fears you, he has no companionhip at all because he doesnt view you as a friend.

and remember, unless you have installed cctv you cannot know that your solitary budgie is "perfectly happy". of course he will seem much happier when you are there, it is when you are not there to see him that he is lonely. and you can never really tell what he is feeling anyways, even though he can make do and survive without a friend doesnt mean that solitary keeping isnt hurting him.

many people say that budgies are social, "like humans," and compare solitary keeping with keeping a person alone. i disagree. budgies are far more social than humans! while a person will need seek out some alone time, a budgerigar will almost never seperate himself out of sight/earshot of his family if given any sort of choice. any time spent alone is detrimental to quality of life.

wild or not, budgerigars are social animals who need, not just want, a friend. a same species friend is the only way to provide high quality interaction, which is available whenever. in many, if not most, households, there is simply no way to provide even the barest minimum of social activity without another budgie.
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These are all great points. I can't pick one side.
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