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Old 03-30-2017, 01:58 PM
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My two birds, Sunshine and Pearl, have been with me only a little while. A month or so ago we found Pearl (my albino budgie) in our backyard, she'd obviously escaped from somebody. We posted on a neighborhood app about her but nobody claimed her. I knew she'd be a tough one to crack, as she had no idea who I was or why I had her now. After a few weeks of having her in her cage, I split the cage in half with screen and placed Sunshine on the other side(a sky-blue yellowface). Both seem to get along most of the time, but every now and then they squabble a bit. I'm worried since they're both female they'll keep fighting and stress each other out. Do I need to return Sunshine and get a male? I've already spent a bunch on the both of them and we can't go around buying $100-200 worth of cages to separate them more. Another concern I have is that I won't be able to tame either of them? sunshine has gotten on my finger willingly all of two times. Pearl refuses to let me touch her unless I'm distracting her with food. I've startled them a few times now and I'm scared that keeps losing their trust in me as well. The worst time was when I was feeding the both of them millet and I noticed a spider on my hand, cried out, and dropped the millet (in my defense I have awful arachnophobia). Am I doing a completely awful job? I've never owned birds before...

P.S. I like to let them out in hopes they'll notice the playground I bought them, but they flutter around and land on random things in my room! They've both bumped into things and I'm afraid they'll hurt themselves. What do I do besides close my window and cover the mirrors?

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Old 03-30-2017, 03:25 PM
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Hi!
While I’m not the most experience budgie owner, I do have some tips.
First of all: I would give it another month. It takes time for real trust to built, and while your spider scare may have freaked them out a bit, there are lots of things you can do to let them know you’re safe. I personally wouldn’t let them out anymore, not until they’re hand trained. It’s more than likely that it is really scary for them not to be in the safety of their cage, and even worse, a big hand trying to catch you to put you back in.
Another thing you could do is to move them to a part of the house you’re not in very often. If possible, try to go in every hour or so and be quite with no sudden movements. Read them a book or sing to them to let them know you’re safe. After 3-4 day start putting your hand in again.
To separate them you could buy wood, plywood or something, so that they could only hear each other for a while, and then go back to the screen. ( I deleted what was here because sdodo made a great point in regards to nesting boxes, like I said I'm not the most experienced owner ;D) Thanks sdodo!!!
I really encourage you to stick it out, but I know that can be hard. And sometimes the best thing is to separate. Just trust you judgment and keep asking questions if needed!
Hope this helps!

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Old 03-30-2017, 04:11 PM
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So, let me just clarify your situation:
About a month or so ago, you found Pearl in your garden, took her in and have not managed to find her previous owner.
Then after a few more weeks you bought Sunshine and put her in Pearl's cage with a divider between them.
Why did you decide to buy Sunshine?
Did you realise that quarantine guidelines should have been followed (meaning separate cages, in separate rooms for a number of weeks)?
Did you read the sticky advising how to gradually introduce new birds to each other?
Yes it is more difficult to tame two birds than one but a month or so is not a long time in this process.

To say you're doing an awful job would be very harsh but now that you have found this wonderful site, you really need to sit down and read through the list of stickies, they'll likely point out where you've gone wrong and how to back track and do it right.
There is so much useful information in there:
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You'll probably find these the most helpful to start with:
Yes, Your Bird IS Scared!
Introducing Two Budgies
Quarantine IS Necessary! - though this is too late now.
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Suggestions To Help You Bond With A New Budgie

Some minor squabbling is normal between budgies. If your budgies squabble too much to be housed together or if the divider doesn't allow the birds enough space, then you'll need to house the birds in separate cages. If you haven't got another cage and can't afford to buy one, then you'll need to rehome one of the birds (or return to store if that's possible).

Letting them out in your bedroom - it's good that you've considered the windows and mirrors, other than that, I'd just try to minimise clutter as much as possible and try to position things so that they can't easier get stuck behind large pieces of furniture.
Place their play gym beside their cage door with small treats attached (millet, toy they like, romaine lettuce) so that they're encourage to explore it. Once they're used to popping out and confidently perching there, you can gradually (over a few days) move it to another place in the room.

I wouldn't consider swapping Sunshine for a male, it may be the case that Pearl is used to living as a single bird and wouldn't be any more accepting of a male bird's company. Also, if you can't afford another cage, you need to think practically and consider that fact that two birds also means two sets of potential vets bills.
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Old 03-30-2017, 04:21 PM
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I would first tell you to take a deep breath. Its ok
I am far from an expert but I will share what I've learned from experience and from here.

I would strongly suggest purchasing a second cage. Its always possible for new budgies to not get along. That goes with males and females. It is good to have a back-up cage if a situation arises where you must separate them. It also is good to have so that you can observe quarantine. I know the money thing all to well, but a second cage is worth the investment.

In regards to taming them. Give them time. Be ready to accept that they might never get past step up/down. Start with simply talking softly to them when you change their food and water. Sit by their cage and read/sing/talk at them. Offer treats through the bars of the cage. Move at their pace. You will know when they are ready to move on to eating out of your hand. I think even as a pair they can become comfortable with you as well. It just take time and patience. Hold off on letting them out for now. Work on gaining their trust first. Remember if something happens do all you can to not panic (its tough I know). Keep calm and they will keep calm.

I would not get them anything that can be seen as a nesting space. Next boxes, those coconut hide away or sleep huts and anything like that. That is a trigger for breeding and is not something to encourage unless one is very knowledgeable about everything that comes with breeding budgies. Even with only girls, if they want babies they will lay eggs even if no male is present. That can lead to a slew of health issues and is best avoided.

Don't give up on your two little ones. Its scary being a new budgie owner. I was there not long ago myself. This forum is an amazing resource. Read all the stickys and ask questions and you will do just fine.

EDIT: Posted at the same time as JRS. I agree with all the advice!
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Old 03-30-2017, 04:21 PM
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Welcome to the forum.

The first step to become a better budgie owner is to find information that's going to help you do things right.
You've taken that first step by finding a place to learn.

The next part is to take the time and read the stickies.

JRS has provided you with a lot of useful links so I'm not going to overwhelm you with more, but here's my advice.

Spend the next few weeks or even a month just looking after your budgies and not worrying about taming and bonding. Research. Learn.
You won't become a good budgie parent by worrying too much.

You need to understand what your birds like. They don't necessarily want to be petted and touched by you and you have to learn to respect what your bonds want not just what you want.
The fact that you have two females doesn't mean anything. They can become just as good friends to one another and yourself with time and patience.
If you've seen adorable cute budgie videos on social media there is hours and hours of dedicated training behind that.

Relax and give yourself time to really learn about becoming a bird owner.

Good luck.
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You indicated in your initial post you've used a "screen" to divide the cage.
How large is the cage Length, Width and Height? (prior to dividing)
What type of "screen" is this-- is it a window screen because those are not safe for budgies.
What kind of metal is the "screen" made of?
Are the two budgies still in the same cage with the divider in it or has the divider now been removed?

If you can answer the questions I've posted, it will be very helpful so we can provide information in addition to resources you've already been directed to.

Please take the time to read through the Site Guidelines, all of the How To Guides, the FAQs, the Budgie Articles and the stickies located at the top of each section of the forum.

Truly, the very BEST advice anyone can offer you is to take the time to read ALL of the stickies throughout the various Talk Budgie forums as well as the Budgie Articles we have posted.

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Hi there and to the forums!

You couldn't have come to a better place to learn even more about the best of budgie care!

Be sure to read through the forum's Budgie Articles and "stickies" (threads "stuck" to the top of each subforum for easy reference) to stay up to date on all aspects of budgie care. If you have any questions after reading through everything, be sure to ask as we'd love to help!

You've been given stellar advice and been asked great questions by FaeryBee above; I look forward to hearing more about your budgies and in time I'm sure that Sunny and Pearl will settle in better.

We look forward to seeing you around the forums as well as staying updated Pearl and Sunshine's progress!

Additionally, if you have any photos of them to share, we'd love to see them!

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Thank you everyone who replied!! I just now figured out how to reply back to responses
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