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Hi! A few months back, I was in a pet store looking for a dog treats and at the types of gold fish when I passed by the parakeets cage and a certain lutino budgie caught my eye. She was so pretty, I had to have her! As the associate was about to catch her, I noticed a blue bird kissing her while the others fluttered about. Long story short, I left with a couple of budgies and a cute yellow cage that matched my room (and a cuttle bone, food, a pack of toys, and a sand perch).

So we get home and we set up the cage (only the blue one Skye, got loose ). I noticed that they weren't as close as they were in the store. They would sit on opposite sides of the cage and wouldn't move closer, but after a week they were singing together on the swing once again.

Recently, however, the yellow one, Sunni, has been pushing him off the swing and pecking him when they share food bowls, but sometimes she'll go back to being buddy-buddy. Oh! And she never leaves the cage! I try not to force them to do anything, but not even her favorite treats (broccoli and millet) can get her out. Skye, on the other hand has days when he wants to chill in the cage and days when he hates being in it.

So any suggestions on what I should do? Is there any idea on why shes's being to mean. I don't want to separate them because they seemed to be bonded at some point, but I don't want either of them hurt. I would say that Skye is hand tamed. He knows his name and how to come to me on command and hopefully many more tricks to come, but Sunni is still a wild child. LOL. But they are both almost four months old and I don't believe they are going into condition. I figure that once her attitude calms down, she'll want to fly around with her buddy, but I have no clue what to do to get her there.

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Welcome to the forum.

Firstly, is the perch you have is like a sand paper covered thing, you should ditch it as it's too abrasive for little budgie feet.

If you have the budgies sharing one food bowl, that might be why you're seeing some fighting. Double up on swings, food bowls and this should help with any fighting.
When it comes to out of cage time, let your birds decide. They come out or they don't- it's fine. They should do what they want as long as you are there to supervise their out of cage time.

Establish a routine for them. Let them out at a set time, feed them at a set time.... do stuff at the same time, including uncovering them and putting them to bed. Routine is great for budgies.
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Hi there and to the forums!

Your budgies sound adorable, we'd love to meet them when you get a chance

Meanwhile, you've been given some great advice above. How large is their cage? The minimum size for two budgies is 18" x 18" by 30"; if it is too small, Sunni may feel like she doesn't have her own "space", which could cause her frustration against Skye.

Additionally, ensuring they have two of everything, as Therm mentioned, is a good way to prevent their animosity towards one another.

If, after all that is fixed, or if it's already the case, and Sunni continues to increase in her efforts against Skye, it may be best to separate them and let them have out-of cage time together

You've come to a great place to ensure you're up to date on the very best of budgie care! Be sure to read through the forums, especially the Budgie Articles and "stickies" (threads "stuck" to the top of the sub forums for easy reference). If you have any questions afterwards, please be sure to ask as we'd love to help

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Welcome to the forum.

Firstly, is the perch you have is like a sand paper covered thing, you should ditch it as it's too abrasive for little budgie feet.

If you have the budgies sharing one food bowl, that might be why you're seeing some fighting. Double up on swings, food bowls and this should help with any fighting.
When it comes to out of cage time, let your birds decide. They come out or they don't- it's fine. They should do what they want as long as you are there to supervise their out of cage time.

Establish a routine for them. Let them out at a set time, feed them at a set time.... do stuff at the same time, including uncovering them and putting them to bed. Routine is great for budgies.
Thank you for the quick reply!
-The pack said its a natural sand perch, so I thought it was great, but it does feel like a course nail file. I'll replace it anyway just to be safe. Any perch in particular that I should look for?

-They have two separate food bowls and a water bowl in the middle. Sometimes they just hop over to share. Usually Skye to Sunni's bowl. I'm ordering a bigger cage later this week so that I have space to double everything, so while I'm buying new toys to decorate it, I'll definitely pick up a couple different swings and perches.

-As far as out of cage time goes, I hardly ever drag her out unless I need to clean the cage and check them for injuries after a bad fight. It just worries me that she truly doesn't seem want to come out.

-Routine is my biggest struggle. I'm well known for being spontaneous. It's a wonder how I ever managed to housebreak my dog! lol. But if it will help those two out, I'll try my hardest to straighten out a schedule.
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Hi there and to the forums!

Your budgies sound adorable, we'd love to meet them when you get a chance

Meanwhile, you've been given some great advice above. How large is their cage? The minimum size for two budgies is 18" x 18" by 30"; if it is too small, Sunni may feel like she doesn't have her own "space", which could cause her frustration against Skye.

Additionally, ensuring they have two of everything, as Therm mentioned, is a good way to prevent their animosity towards one another.

If, after all that is fixed, or if it's already the case, and Sunni continues to increase in her efforts against Skye, it may be best to separate them and let them have out-of cage time together

You've come to a great place to ensure you're up to date on the very best of budgie care! Be sure to read through the forums, especially the Budgie Articles and "stickies" (threads "stuck" to the top of the sub forums for easy reference). If you have any questions afterwards, please be sure to ask as we'd love to help

Cheers!
I would love to show them to the world if I could! But I'll probably be able to post a picture or two tomorrow . I do think mine are the loveliest, but who wouldn't about their own birds!

Right, so my current cage is 14" x 11" x 19", but it was so cute and it seemed so big in the store and they seemed so small and I wasn't quite sure if I even had space for it, but I've read up a little bit and I believe this cage is good enough for the two, but please tell me if I should get a one thats bigger or smaller. I wanna do my best for these two. I think I read somewhere that the cage part is 30" x 20" x 43" -ish which seems like plenty of room to me, but the current seemed good to me too, so I don't really know for certain.

https://www.chewy.com/prevue-pet-pro...iron/dp/133569

So I'll definitely double everything and if you guys have any suggestions on anything else for them, I'll try to pick it up as well.

Thank you both so much! I grew up with dogs, cats, fish, and hamsters so birds are really foreign to me, but I love them both dearly and I truly want to give them a wonderful life, even if we started off very rocky. I'll have to read up on all the different threads and stickies (probably tomorrow when I am able to absorb the all that information). And this website is amazing! I don't know anybody who has ever owned a bird of any kind except for one uncle who lets them fly around all the time and who likes to suggest I take them outside to fly freely. How that makes any sense, i have no idea ) So it's very reassuring to have people with experience to ask questions and find PROPER answers! So once again Thank you both!
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A natural sand perch is fine--variety is important.

Oops--we posted at the same time! That is an excellent cage--many people here have it.
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to TB!
These are some of the perches I use: Petco All Natural Hardwood Perch | Petco Store

Petco All Natural Fir Perch | Petco Store

I also use this swing for my budgies! They love shredding it and it's the only toy they care for :
https://www.amazon.com/Kabob-2-Inch-...rd+kabob+swing


And I agree with Leah. That's a good cage for two budgies
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That is definitely a lovely cage for two budgies and I think they will be very happy in it! There will be plenty of space for their "double amenities"
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Hi! to Talk Budgies

The cage you are planning to buy for your budgies is great.
I have several cages like that.
Be sure you fasten the little "side" doors securely closed for your budgies' safety.

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I'll be looking forward to seeing pictures of your little Sunni and Skye!

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Good luck with these two, but the uncle's advice about free flying outside is a definite NO NO. Indoor supervised flight is
the only safe way, if they enjoy out of cage time.
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