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We got this new budgie after my old one passed out some unknown disease. We wanted a female for my oldest budgie, its been around 2 or 3 monts I think since we got her.

At nights she shakes her beak and hits the cage and shakes her body I dont know whats the cause and had her cere a weird. I thought she had Scaly Mites so bought Parafine(sp?)
After that my parents used vaseline so it maybe less harmful. cere color changed and looked like she was going well but now this happened.

She still shakes at nights.
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No avian vets are here. I would bring her to normal vets but they generally dont understand from birds.

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I strongly recommend that you take both birds to the vet. Even if the vet is not avian specialised, they can still communicate with specialists, they can send samples to be tested and they can prescribe medications.

I'm not experienced at all but these are my thoughts - At first I thought that maybe the feather loss was just a very harsh moult as the skin appears quite smooth and, from your photos, I can't see any obvious signs of scaly face mites, however, I also can't see any pin feathers, so for that reason, I doubt that it is a moult. Can you please clarify what you mean by "had her cere a weird"?
The best treatment for scaly mites is ivermectin, and you would need to treat both birds. It is much more effective than Vaseline.

Are you still applying the Vaseline? You need to take great care not to cover the nares/nostrils. I'm assuming that your bird's shaking and banging of the bars doesn't just happen following the Vaseline application and therefore isn't simply her attempt to clean it off? Does the shaking only occur at night?

On a separate note, that cage looks much too small, what are its dimensions?
Does the water in that dispenser have anything added to it?
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Water has Vitamins, They dont eat fruits only greens. Shaking only occur nights when she wokes up, when she is sleeping she is silent.
I dont know the cage's dimensions. They are outside mostly and only enter sleep at night and eating or resting.
By mean "weird cere" it looked like its swollen
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The best thing to do, is to visit an avian vet; the next best is to visit a vet with an interest in avian & exotics, the next is to visit a normal vet.

This link may help you search for avian vets:
Association of Avian Veterinarians

If for whatever reason, the birds cannot be taken to a vet, then assuming that the problem is scaly face mites, ivermectin can be ordered online. You would need to treat both birds as it is easily contagious and it can take a while for symptoms to show after becoming infected. Treating both birds prevents them from repeatedly reinfecting each other. You also need to follow guidelines to disinfect the cage, its accessories and other areas where the birds perch outside the cage.

Of course, the problem may not be mites and for that reason, I would strongly advise you to make a vet appointment.

Regarding your bird's cere - Could it simply be that she was in breeding condition? (when females come into breeding condition, their ceres change to a brown colour and can sometimes also become crusty).

If the shaking is only when waking in the night, it might be a good idea to leave a night light on, near the cage, then it isn't pitch black and disorienting if she wakes.
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While it is very challenging for people who live in countries with no Avian Vets, there are steps you can take to help ensure your budgies' health.

With the right motivation, you can work with a regular or veterinarian to get the proper care for your budgie(s).

You will want to do as much research as you can and learn as much about budgies and the best practices for their care so you can provide your little ones with the best possible life.

We have a member in India who has done this and has developed a great relationship with a regular vet.
With the member's research and the vet's collaboration, they have found ways of providing care for her budgie that she would have not been able to manage otherwise.

When you develop a good relationship with a regular veterinarian, that individual can collaborate via telephone or Skype with Avian Veterinarians in other countries if necessary to get assistance in appropriate diagnosing and prescribing treatment for your Avian companions.

You can also contact an On-Line Avian Vet, and send pictures to get input from a professional.

The individuals on this forum are not Avian Veterinary professionals and cannot diagnose your budgies' condition. It is important you see someone with appropriate training for the help your budgie requires. If there are no vets near you, you can check with universities, zoos and/or wildlife rehabilitation organizations as well as contacting an on-line Avian Vet for assistance.

JRS has posed good questions with regard to the "banging of the bars" and the night-time shaking.
How are you putting the budgies back into the cage?
Are you allowing them to go in on their own or are you forcibly catching or grabbing them to get them back into the cage?


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Update, her feathers grow back and she is really happy and energetic
However she still shakes her head at nights, vet said it was stress and her immune system was weakened but im not sure if thats the cause because he is no avian vet.

Also her cere is dark brown now, she is in breeding condition i guess?
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It is important you ensure your budgie gets a very healthy diet to boost her immune system:

A Healthy Diet for your Budgie

Cuttlebones and Mineral Blocks/Manu Clay Roses

Quality Seed Mix

I also recommend that you use Apple Cider Vinegar (with the mother) as directed in this thread:

Apple Cider Vinegar

If your budgie's cere has turned dark brown she is currently in condition. Please make sure you do not have anything in her cage that could be used as a nest and limit her daylight hours to no more than 8 per day.

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Additionally, the plastic perches shown in the pictures you posted are not good for your bird's feet.
Natural wood perches of varying diameters are important to prevent pressure sores.

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