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Determining Gender Having trouble figuring out if your budgie is a male or female? Ask here!

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Old 02-28-2017, 10:20 AM
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The cere colours on female budgies (when in and out of breeding condition) are essentially the same and this goes for all the colour mutations.
This has been extensively explained on your past threads on this subject.

Sapphire is a recessive pied budgie and the cere on males of this specific colour mutation will not change upon reaching maturity. The cere will have a uniform pinkish/purplish colour with a translucent quality.

From those photos, the cere seems to be quite pink, then again on your other set of pics, Sapphire's cere was showing the typical colour for a female.

Sapphire can't be both genders and without having real access to your budgie, we can only guess...

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That's why I was Confused, it looks nothing like my males cere or like my other hens and the fact it keeps changing doesn't help.. maybe because she was older when we got her its possible she could of been coming out of condition which would explain all the recent colour changes these last few weeks. Thanks anyway for you help.. I know it's not important but I'm going to great lengths to prevent them from breeding and if she is a boy I could lighten up on this couple a little bit.😁

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Sapphire looks to be a male in the pictures posted in this thread.

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Thank you, I do think she is a male after all..

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I have 3 recessive pied females and their ceres when out of condition will be mainly white in colour, no pink colour present at all.

I fail to see the translucent quality on your Sapphire's cere, but if the pink colour is as intense as is it on the last photo you posted, then "she" could be a boy.
The fact that a couple of weeks ago the cere was getting tan could be related to a potential hormonal imbalance if in fact Sapphire is a male.
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When she first came to live with me I noticed her cere was peeling I thought it could of possibly been the start of scaly mites, I treated with ivermectin. It seems to have kept peeling and now has stopped flaking and Is this pinky colour. I haven't really had her long enough to know if she's been in breeding Condition or what's been going on. I will keep an eye on it now and see what happens incase it could be hormonal. I can take her to my avian vet if it changes again to get her/him looked at. I didn't think for one minute that maybe there was something else going on. Thank you.

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We have another member with a recessive pied whose gender was extremely difficult to determine.

In fact, we went back and forth multiple times with many pictures, each of which looked different.

Oscar is now called "OscarLynn".
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