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Determining Gender Having trouble figuring out if your budgie is a male or female? Ask here!
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Old 02-18-2017, 11:44 PM
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Hello! I am brand new here.

I have 4 Budgies. Echo is Purple with a yellow tinted head, Blue is blue and white, Delta is green and yellow head, and Tweety the newest addition is all yellow. I bought them all from Petco, and I was told I have all males because of the blue ceres (I think thats the right word). I had Delta, Blue and Echo for 3 months and Tweety was added almost 3 weeks ago. I have been looking more closely at them lately and I looked at Echo's cere. It is no longer the light blue/purple that it was. It is now completely white with a light pink/purple tint. And I notice that he doesn't sing at all, only chirps in response to the others. Also, him and Blue (definitely a male) are always by each others side. Kissing, feeding each other and preening each other. Usual behavior? But I am concerned about the cere color. Petco said there is no guarantee for gender but they seemed quite sure.
I added a picture of Echo close up. The lighting is bad. I will try to get one in natural light tomorrow if needed! And no that is not a happy look. Lol
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Hello Sarah, and to TB! First off, may I ask if you got 3 of your budgie's names from the raptors in Jurassic World? It's one of my favorite movies and I plan to name future budgies after the raptors

As to your questions, it's completely normal for budgies of any gender to kiss and preen each other. Those are gestures of friendship and a close bond. As far as genders, many pet stores say that if there is any blue on the cere it means that that budgie is a male. Wrong! Young females will have a white cere with pale blue edges. When they go into breeding condition, the cere turns tan/brown. When you are able to post better pictures that'll help, but from what you're describing and from the current picture, I'd say that Echo is a lovely female.

Are you housing all of your budgies together? Depending on what genders all of them are, you could run into some conflict. Was Tweety quarantined before joining the others?
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I agree, from the description and pic, Echo is female
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Thank you!

Yes I did name three of them after the raptors in Jurassic World! I was going to name Tweety, Charlie to make the squad complete but that name didn't seem to fit him!

I was able to get a picture in natural light. The birdies aren't tamed so they are still afraid of me and of coming out of the cage.

I hope this helps a little more!
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Hello, Sarah and to the forums!

Your little Echo is adorable, she is definitely a pretty little girl

Unfortunately, pet store employees often don't know how to tell the gender on young budgies!

You've come to a great place to learn even more about budgies, as well as to share as much as you'd like about your flock

Meanwhile, be sure to read through the forums' many articles and "stickies" (threads "stuck" to the top of each subforum for easy reference) to ensure you're up to date on the very best of budgie care. If you have any questions afterwards, be sure to ask as we'd love to help.

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Thank you so much! Yes I love Echo's colors!
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Hello Sarah, and to TB! First off, may I ask if you got 3 of your budgie's names from the raptors in Jurassic World? It's one of my favorite movies and I plan to name future budgies after the raptors

As to your questions, it's completely normal for budgies of any gender to kiss and preen each other. Those are gestures of friendship and a close bond. As far as genders, many pet stores say that if there is any blue on the cere it means that that budgie is a male. Wrong! Young females will have a white cere with pale blue edges. When they go into breeding condition, the cere turns tan/brown. When you are able to post better pictures that'll help, but from what you're describing and from the current picture, I'd say that Echo is a lovely female.

Are you housing all of your budgies together? Depending on what genders all of them are, you could run into some conflict. Was Tweety quarantined before joining the others?


After I uploaded the other pictures I realized I forgot to answer a couple of your other questions.

I am glad to know kissing and preening is normal behavior!

I had Echo, Delta, and Blue for about 2 months and then I added Tweety. However, I was not aware that I should quarantine him. I separated them for a week and then once they were used to being next to each other I put them in the same cage together. Are the other 3 in danger?? But yes since they are housing together I am worried about a conflict. 3 males and 1 female. Yikes!!! Any advice on what to do? Thank you!
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Although it would have been very bad if Tweety had an illness that was passed on to the others because of a lack of quarantine, after three weeks there's no point in reinstating quarantine since they've already been living together for a while.

Also, since you said that Echo and Blue are closely bonded, I think that it would be best to separate them into their own cage and have Delta and Tweety in their own cage. You can keep the cages next to each other, and they can all have out of cage time together, but this will eliminate any conflicts that could arise between the boys and Echo.

To prevent unwanted broodiness/want to mate between Echo and Blue, be sure to follow the instructions in this thread:

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It's very common to house males and females together, and as long as the correct steps are taken, you don't need to worry about unwanted eggs
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I agree with everything said above! When I first got budgies years ago, I didn't know about quarantine either. Thankfully neither birds had illnesses. I'd love to meet the rest of your little flock in addition to miss Echo! Pictures are never objected to Every time I see their names I smile- I'm a huge JW fan
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Echo is very pretty! Yeah, the PetSmart employees told me my Cosmo was a male I wasn't sure though and that's why I joined TB
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