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Budgie Breeding Before breeding any species, it is important to learn as much about the animals, their personalities and the best practices to follow for responsible and ethical breeding prior to making the commitment to take on the responsibility.

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Old 02-17-2017, 04:54 PM
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It's worth mentioning that while my birds are housed together, this has not been something I did overnight.

I got my first birds in 2015 and back then, they were kept in pairs. I observed their behaviours and split them male & female who naturally bonded, and caged them together.
I had one pair that had an issue with mating and took appropriate action to split them up and discourage their behaviour.

Only at the end of last year did the birds move in together and that was through slowly allowing them to get to know one another and bond as a flock.
It came down to having them this way because it was what they wanted. They would flock together in one cage and it became easier to allow them to be together than try and split them up.

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Thanks everyone. All good food for thought
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Default Tiki and Genevieve: what would their babies look like?

Tiki is a very normal normal green budgie and Genevieve is very unusual in her pale blueness. Recently they have taken a liking to each other and become buddies.

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Our of curiosity, if these two mate many months from now, would all of them just be green like Tiki lol ? Her mutation is so hard to place I'm just curious if *anything* of hers could, in theory, possibly pop through as dominant (based on her appearance now, not sure of her lineage). She is so pretty it would be a shame to lose that, but they both have wonderful personalities (very calm, even and friendly) and seem to like each other.

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From the picture I would say that Genevieve is a Yellowface Type 1 Greywing Grey but since you said she is blue it's probably just the lighting of the picture. If she's blue then she's probably a YF 1 Greywing Sky Blue.

From this pairing you are right that all the chicks would be normal green like Tiki, however, they would all also be split for blue and greywing if I'm correct in identifying her colour

Hopefully someone will correct me if I'm wrong!
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Ok. That's what I kinda figured haha. Thanks!
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Ok. That's what I kinda figured haha. Thanks!
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So this may be a silly question but I'll ask anyway

When you breed two budgies and they are in the nest, do they ever come out those entire 8 weeks to play outside the cage? can you handle the male and have him sit with you at any time? Or are they stuck in that cage 24/7 until the babies are all weened? I've never seen anything on this

So do they stay the whole time? Or is there at point at which they will want to come out for a little break, stretch their wings and fly around? My guys come out daily and fly for hours. 2 months seems like a long time to be cooped up for

Thanks again!
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To add to Genevieve, she is also opaline and seems very pale so I wouldn't count our her being dilute rather than greywing. Either way, she is lovely and with any pairing you have the chance of surprises when you don't know what varieties are in their history.
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To add to Genevieve, she is also opaline and seems very pale so I wouldn't count our her being dilute rather than greywing. Either way, she is lovely and with any pairing you have the chance of surprises when you don't know what varieties are in their history.
Thanks so much

Out of curiosity, if bred her with my SF dominant pied Tundra, what kind of babies do you think we would be looking at? would they something like 50% (can't remember exact ratios) pied and split for opaline, greywing? (unless some suprise recessives in him?)?

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Hi Midoritori

Going back to your earlier question about cage (s), I'd just like to add my thoughts.

L01 has outer dimensions of 78 x 42 x 56 cm (30.7 L x 16.5 W x 22 in H)
L02 has outer dimensions of 78 x 42 x 93cm (30.7 L x 16.5 W x 37 in H)

However, the base is larger than the barred area, the barred section of these cages are only 70cm (27.5")L x 35cm (13.5")W

If you look at the minimum recommended cage dimensions on the sticky:
Cage sizes.
....you will find the following advice:

'Here is a little quick reference chart of how many can comfortably fit in a specific sized cage. Just multiply all 3 of the dimensions to get your cubic inches. A good rule is about 3,800 cubic inches per budgie should be enough room. Obviously the bigger the better. Just keep in mind wider is alway better then taller.

Minimum size for 2 parakeets-----30x18x18"
Volume = 9,720" cubic inches

Minimum size for 4 parakeets-----34x18x25"
Volume = 15,300" cubic inches'

If you multiply the dimensions of the L01/L02:
L01 outer dimensions multiplied give 11,035 - using barred section figures it is 8,166 cubic inches.
L02 outer dimensions multiplied give 18,742 - using barred section figures it is 13,736 cubic inches.

I have a L02 for my canary and in my opinion, it will be a tight squeeze for 4 budgies, especially when you consider that it is taller than wide and birds tend to spend more time in the top of the cage.
I feel you'll be much better off, buying a second L01 and splitting your 4 into either pairs or by gender, whatever works best. Also, if you're thinking of breeding in the future, then you'd need to have a separate cage for the breeding pair anyway.
(If you have two L01s, you would still have the option of buying the plastic clips to attach another deck and convert the two L01s into a L02 but you'd still be able to split the cages back into two if you found it crowded or wanted to separate a breeding pair.)

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So this may be a silly question but I'll ask anyway

When you breed two budgies and they are in the nest, do they ever come out those entire 8 weeks to play outside the cage? can you handle the male and have him sit with you at any time? Or are they stuck in that cage 24/7 until the babies are all weened? I've never seen anything on this

So do they stay the whole time? Or is there at point at which they will want to come out for a little break, stretch their wings and fly around? My guys come out daily and fly for hours. 2 months seems like a long time to be cooped up for

Thanks again!
I don't have the experience to answer this sorry, but I notice you've asked a couple of times and got no response. I'd assume that you'd give the parents the opportunity to come out of the cage if they chose to do so. The same with interacting with you; I expect they'd be preoccupied with the breeding/raising but perhaps allow them to choose whether to interact with you or not. Note this is just my complete guess at the answer, but I was wondering if your question arose from the choice of vision cage and where to put a nesting box? If the nesting box covered the cage doors, you could always use the food dish access doors as entrance/exit doors, though I'd make sure that they're used to exiting/entering that way beforehand.

Not a clue about mutations and genetics sorry!
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