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Budgie Breeding Before breeding any species, it is important to learn as much about the animals, their personalities and the best practices to follow for responsible and ethical breeding prior to making the commitment to take on the responsibility.

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Bubbles(white and blue) is 1 year and 7 months, Midnight(Violet) is 9 months
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First of all I hope you are not planning to breed Midnight until she is at least a year old. This sticky may help you:

Are You Ready To Breed Your Budgies?

From the pictures I would say that Bubbles is a Sky Blue Recessive Pied and Midnight is a Visual Violet (Violet (single factor) Cobalt) Opaline.

Firstly Bubbles is a visual Recessive Pied. If Midnight happens to be split for rec. pied (carrying the gene but not showing it visually) then you would get:
50% normal/rec. pied
50% rec. pied
If Midnight is not split for rec. pied you would get:
100% normal/rec. pied

Secondly Midnight is opaline which is a sex-linked characteristic so if Bubbles is split to opaline you would get:
Opaline Cocks
Normal/opaline Cocks
Opaline Hens
Normal Hens
If Bubbles isn't split to opaline you would get:
Normal/opaline Cocks
Normal Hens

Finally since Midnight is SF violet cobalt and Bubbles is sky blue you would get:
25% SF violet cobalt
25% SF violet sky blue
25% cobalt
25% sky blue

If either of the birds are split for another mutation then you could be surprised.

These stickies may help you:

Genetics: What does it all mean?
Budgie Mutation And Color Guide
Breeding Expectations

There are also other stickies under Mutations and Genetics in Budgie Breeding on this forum.

I hope I've helped and I hope someone corrects me if I'm wrong about anything.
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...I am a little confused Midnight layed a batch of 5 eggs when she was only six months olds!! She lost interest fairly quickly and I removed the eggs..... but then she started laying again 3 days ago. bubbles my male broke the first egg but the second one she is incubating. I got her a nest this time cause I didn't want her just laying from the perch (her old nest was a tissue box but she didn't lay in it) so I'm not sure what exactly I'm suppose to do. I know it can cause a mulitple health issues but is it alright for her to continue to incubate and potentially raise a successful clutch?
I feel like everyone is going to be fairly angry at me but I really need some advice. This was not planed at all I never intended on breeding this pair.
This is also why I asked what color there babies would be.
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This sticky will help you:
When We Don't Want Eggs!

Budgies are technically physically ready to breed at around 6 months however breeding them at this age would be like 12 year old humans having children - they are nowhere near mentally ready to raise offspring.

The easiest way to discourage breeding/laying is to simply not provide them with a nest box or any sort of hidey hole that could be used as a nest.

Have a read of the attached sticky - hopefully that helps.
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If budgies are given the right circumstances and allowed too, they will breed.

As you have already been told, Midnight's young age not only puts her at risk, but it also puts the chicks at risk.
Has she been mating with Bubbles? The eggs will not be fertile if she hasn't and she is still capable of laying eggs that are not fertile.

Given that she has had two clutches at such a young age, she is at very serious risk of developing issues. It takes a lot out of a bird to lay eggs.
Also that she has laid two clutches means she may be a chronic egg layer.

Providing her with a nest box would be the right thing to do if you are in the right place to help raise a clutch.
You need to do some serious research.

I would start with learning how to candle the eggs to see if they are even fertile.
If they are not, you should dispose of the eggs and remove the nest box and not replace it at all.

The forum is a budgie resource so while you have this issue, you need to start reading up about what's best for budgies.
I will provide you with some links to get you started and you should navigate yourself around the forum, looking for more answers should you need them.

Are You Ready To Breed Your Budgies?

Are Your Eggs Fertile?

A Budgie Breeding Diet

Excessive or Chronic Egg-laying in Birds: Causes, Effects, and Treatment

You should also find your nearest avian vet. I would suspect your Midnight is a chronic layer and you should discuss the matter with a trained professional.
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At this point in time, it is important you become as educated as possible in order to provide the best possible care for your budgies.

Please begin by reading ALL of the information in the links provided in your introductory thread.

Midnight and Bubbles should have been discouraged from breeding from the time you first brought them home.

Therm has given you excellent advice.

If the current egg is not fertile, it would be best to dispose of it, remove the nestbox and begin discouraging breeding behavior to bring Midnight out of condition.

Separating Bubbles and Midnight into individual cages, moving Midnight's cage into a different room, limiting daylight to no more than 8 hours per day, and rearranging the cage every two days will help. Additionally, limit protein in Midnight's diet at this time to help bring her out of condition.

Before breeding any species, it is important to learn as much about the animals, their personalities and the best practices to follow for responsible and ethical breeding prior to making the commitment to take on the responsibility. This requires extensive research and an openness to continual learning.
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I tried to separate bubbles and midnight for eachother but both of them just stopped eating and I couldn't just let them die(after her first clutch). And alsoI am very well educated on rasing clutches because I use to have a pair of budgie who passed away 2 1/2 years ago that raised 2 successful clutchs. And she also had chronic egg laying. But she didn't start laying till about a year and like 2 months. Also for bubbles and midnight at this time I am supplying 5 cuttle bones and 2 mineral boxs and budgie seed which has real egg in it. "Said on the packaging" they do not eat human food I have tried to add it into there diet but the turn there becks at it. Sorry if my English isn't prefect it is not my first language.
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It's unusual for a budgie to stop eating just from being split up as this is something that is regularly done. If breeding budgies it's common to split the female from the male when the clutch is ready for the male to raise the chicks alone. Or when there's an aggressive budgie.
Most budgies don't refuse to eat and die of starvation.

How long did you split them up for before deciding they needed to be together?

Of course no one is suggesting you let them die from starvation, but there's just as much of a chance that Midnight can die from complications from being allowed to keep laying.

You at least need to make sure you start following the guide to stop them laying eggs by reducing their daylight hours, removing the nest box and keep re-arranging their cage.

Have you read the link provided above about checking for fertile eggs?

Have you seen your budgies mate? Are the eggs fertile?


Being well prepared for budgies and having a pair that laid some eggs with no issues aren't the same thing. Have you read any of the links we have provided?

What did you do for your previous budgie that was a chronic egg layer? Did you get vet treatment?

Please make sure you answer the questions staff ask you when responding to a post.

Without additional information it is impossible for us to give you correct advice in your situation.

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Question 1: They had been separated for about 4 days. They are pretty social birds and have always been with another bird. I noticed that in midnight cage that she had not been touching her food or barely touching her food which worried me very much. (My bird seed container are not the big feeders)So I returned them together. And she has been fine since. Except for her starting to lay again. And I had never exposed her to any kind of huts or anything like that.
Question 2: yes I have read the links but the egg is not even 2 days old yet and I have read not to candle before 2 days because the embryos could be very fragile.
Questions 3: Yes I have seen them mate before, so it is possible for them to be fertile.
Question 4: yes I have been reading the links I have been provided with.
Question 5: for my last birds I had changed the change around, limited there hours of day light. She stopped laying for a while and started up again so I separated the pair, and she stopped after her 3 eggs. Then I put them back together once there becks weren't in heat anymore like that crusty brown cere. And I didn't get any more eggs form her. I was very careful with there daily light hours year round.
No I never got to see a vet because we don't have any vets in my area which deal with "pocket pets" I don't know why they called them that but they did.

But is it normal for her cere to not be brown/tan while laying because her cere is still white?

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