Budgie BreedingBefore breeding any species, it is important to learn as much about the animals, their personalities and the best practices to follow for responsible and ethical breeding prior to making the commitment to take on the responsibility. Thread Description:HELP !
Hey guuys! I wanted to ask here, what can you use for breeding budgies, except wooden box? I bought one, and there is no right hole for it, and it cant fit inside. I have big cage, and i can gent another one for babies if needed, and two lovely birds, that kiss and play all the time. I have everything needed, but nest. So what else have you guys used for his? I know wooden box is the best choice, but not the only one right?
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Welcome to the forums! You have certainly come to the right place as you will find all you need to know on budgie care here.
The information on the several articles and sticky threads at the top of each section of the forums will be extremely useful and of benefit to you and your budgie pair.
From your question, I gather that this will be your first time in breeding your budgies.
For how long have you had budgies as pets?
How old is your current pair?
Are you sure your budgies aren't related?
What diet are they on?
Before taking the breeding route and in order to do so more safely, a person should have a very good grasp of the species (this comes with real life experience in budgie ownership) and to do the required research into the subject.
The decision to breed comes with a whole lot of responsibility and commitment, the lives of the breeding pair(s) and the chicks are depending on you and the response you give if/when faced with adversity.
Things like being able to tell if your breeding pair is in good health and top physical condition to go through breeding; when a hen is expecting an egg or if she is showing the first signs of being egg bound; when a chick is having developmental problems, not being fed or showing signs of dehydration;
when there is aggression, abandonment and neglect of the chicks and it's solely up to you to feed and raise the chicks. The ability to detect early on and solve these issues can truly make a difference on the outcome of your breeding journey.
Now onto your question, are you sure you got a proper nest box for breeding budgies? It's very strange for the box to not have an entrance area.
It's also best to attach the nest box onto one of the cage's doors in order to facilitate the whole breeding journey, of keeping track of all laid eggs and for the daily checks on the growing chicks, of cleaning the nest box, etc.
Depending on the cage that you have, it may not be ideal to use for breeding purposes and depending on the layout, you may need to get a more appropriate cage for your budgies to breed.
It's not advisable to purposely remove cage bars in order to fit in a nest box because by doing so, the cage will no longer be suitable to use after the breeding journey is finished, since there will be a big hole on the place where the nest used to be and to permanently keep the nest box on the cage is also not suitable as that would encourage further breeding.
Another option would be to custom make a nest box for your budgies.
You can use pine wood to build a nest box. Or you can simply get another cage, one that has a good area to fit in a nest box with no problem at all.
In this picture you can see a nest box perfectly attached to one of the cage's doors.
I agree that if your birds cant fit through the hole, then it's not the correct nest box for them.
If you have the correct size next box and your budgies aren't going inside this is a clear indicator that they are not ready to breed yet rather than there being anything wrong with the box.
Are you certain you have a male and female?
And is the female in breeding condition?
Hey thanks for the reply. You didnt understand me, or i didnt wrote it well. I bought nest box at pet shop, it has hole in it its perfect. And lid to check out babies.. But the cage is problem. Cage has no hole in wires where I can attach box. Im afraid to cut wires, because i feel it has its construction and cage may end up somehow crooked? Even tho i can find the way to close wires after nesting.. Oher things, i have male over 2 years he is hand fed budgie, and i had female over 11 months, she was full grown budgie when i bought her. And we are slowly taming her too.. They are from two different countires so there is no way they are releated, they are full grown helthy budgies. I feed them with a lot of different types of seeds and vegetables and fruits.. They are flying out of cage every day, but for short time, they go back in quickly because they love their big cage, and toys in it, more then us xD.. .. So i dont mean to put the box on door.. Will they want fly out while nesting?? .I really cant buy another cage just for nesting, it took a long time for girl to addapt to this one, and they are reallyy expencive here. I put inside some braided nest, knitted made of som kinds of sticks and straws, and its really small but that is all i have, and i put it in, she is checking it out, biting it and entering inside.. Its for smaller birds, not budgies, i dont expect anything from that one.. So im asking maybe there is something else i can use?
As aluz has suggested, putting the nest box where one of the doors is will be the best.
There won't be a special area for the nest box unless you have purchased a breeding cage that has been made to have such a thing.
Your female is really a little too young to breed. Ideally over a year/a year and a half is best.
When your birds are nesting, letting them out isn't needed as they need to concentrate on raising their chicks.
You are best of using the nest box that is designed for breeding budgies as this is the best way to check on the babies and ensure their safety.
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That's how cages are supposed to be, with no big holes to facilitate an escape.
The cage's doors are the safest and best way to attach a nest box in, there's no way around it.
You mention the budgie's cage is big, if it's so big then it should have multiple doors on it (two or more doors), you can use one of the doors (a side door if possible) to attach the nest box. Under normal circumstances, the budgies will not be able to escape through that specific door because it is completely blocked by the nest box as it is shown on the pictures I have shared on my previous post.
Also even if you weren't considering breeding your budgies, having at the very least one spare cage (hospital/travel cage) in hand is required in case one of your budgies needs to be quarantined due to health reasons or if you need to separate your budgies due to them not getting along, having a transport cage for vet visits, etc.
When breeding budgies, it's best for them to be fully focused on the task at hand so allowing them to have out of cage time can divert the attention from taking care of the growing family.
Also not having money to spend when breeding is also not a smart choice, a person should have the financial means to provide for everything, including medical care for the breeding pair and any incoming chicks.
You mean the nest you bought is for smaller birds?
From your entire description, I don't think you are really fully ready to breed your budgies and for now it's best for you to remove the nest box and any other nesting areas (including the nesting material).
In order to be better prepared to safely breed your budgies, you can take advantage of the information found on the stickies at the top of the Budgie Breeding section's main page as well as the Articles on Breeding.
No i didnt bought nest for smaller birds, i got that somehow long time ago. And i just put it in for them to play with. I dont expect them to breed in it. Of course. She suprisingly wasnt scared of it, and she spends time inside.I do have money for vet and medicines and other. Just Cages are really expencive here. I have another little cage, from my last bird.. This cage is not gigantic, but its capable of lets say two-three more birds. It has one sliding door.. And i do plan on seperating babies from parents when they grow up... But im saying i dont want to spend money just for buying a nesting cage.. I have 2 already! I will for babies if really needed , but not nesting.. I've had budgies all kinds of my hole life,I grew up with them, and all of them were pets. Now i want to try something new.. Im really not uneducaed on this topic. English is not my first language so i probably dont seem very clear sometimes. Sorry for that. And yeah, Girl is older then eleven months, she was full grown adult when i bought her 11 months ago.. Box is not on cage. So I can put it on door and keep budgies inside for month.. and half lets say ?
What country are you in?
Do you have access to Avian Vets there in case there are problems if your two birds do end up breeding?
What are you planning to do with any offspring they might have?
Before breeding any species, it is important to learn as much about the animals, their personalities and the best practices to follow for responsible and ethical breeding prior to making the commitment to take on the responsibility. This requires extensive research and an openness to continual learning.
If you are considering breeding, please make sure you read the following Breeding Threads:
Please take the time to read through the Site Guidelines, all of the How To Guides, the FAQs, the Budgie Articles and the stickies located at the top of each section of the forum.
Truly, the very BEST advice anyone can offer you is to take the time to read ALL of the stickies throughout the various Talk Budgie forums as well as the Budgie Articles we have posted.
These are great resources for Talk Budgie members and have a wealth of reliable information which will assist you to learn the best practices in caring for your budgies for their optimal health and well-being.
You've been given great advice; it's very important to read through the links provided above if you intend to go through with breeding your budgies You can never be too prepared!
It's great to have you with us, and you couldn't have come to a better place to learn even more about the best of budgie care! Be sure to read through the links provided above to ensure you're up to date on the very best of budgie care practices!
If you have any questions afterwards, please be sure to ask as we'd love to help.
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