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Default Housing Male and Females: conflicting advice from Vet Tech

So I was speaking to one of the Vet techs the other day at our avian Vet and asked her a bit more on their opinion of housing both males and females as I'm looking into bigger cage(s).

We have 2 boys and 2 girls currently (one of the 2 girls in quarentine still as she came to us a week or so ago). All under 5 months except one male who's 2 1/2. We were planning on breeding them when they were a year old + someday. The three get along great so far and love playing together.

The tech said that housing them all together (once fourth one is ready) would be fine as she said keeping them apart would not discourage egg laying. She said just keeping males and females in our home will encourage egg laying in it of itself, as the females would get hormonal.

Now if I housed them all together would keeping them shorter light hours, not offering as much protein etc, no areas to lay eggs for the most part work? They do all really love each other and love being together so far. They love being s little flock.

In future, if I bred them I'd plan to take out a pair and put into a breeder cage later.

Just not sure. People with small flocks can you weigh in on this? Just curious before I purchase a new cage(s).

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I have a female and male budgie together in the same cage. I've had no problems so far. Prior to having Chip, I had a different male in together with Mink, and no problems with that combo either.

I don't necessarily keep the more optimal short light hours (they maybe average 11 hours of sleep), but I do not provide any toys or objects in the cage that would encourage nesting or breeding behaviors. This has probably helped with my specific birds, but I think some has to do with the individual birds you have together also. I have heard of hens who were very persistent in wanting to lay despite owner's efforts.

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I personally find that my flock does well together and have no issues with breeding. Since they all moved in together the males have bonded together much more strongly and I haven't had any issues with mating at all.
My girls would rather not be bothered by the boys.
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We were planning on breeding them when they were a year old + someday.
I think one year old female is too young to be a mother.
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Currently I have only 1 female and 7 males. The female lives with her boyfriend and has, since I got them 3 years ago. He is very protective of her and feeds her all the time but I have never seen him attempt to mate with her and of course I don't have anything in any cage that could encourage nesting. When all the birds are out together another male may decide to try to get close to my female but she puts them in their place and snaps at them or her boyfriend swoops in to say "she's mine." In the past I also had another couple that were together for years without any mating or egg laying issues.
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Ok! This is all very encouraging. I think I will house all 4 of them together then.

Until 4th is out of quarantine in 40 more days, can the other three be housed together?
When we add the fourth I am buying a cage extender that will make the cage twice as big (I have Vision Hagen cage L01 and converting to L02). For now the measurements are just perfect for up to three birds. In the beginning there was occasional bickering but now the female spends time equally with both and gets along great. They all seem to be great little friends. I would take her out with each boy separately to get her used to both which seemed to work. Should I give it a go with these three?

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I would not recommend putting a single female in with two males.
Two budgies of one gender and one of another is simply asking for problems.
This has been explained on multiple threads throughout the forum.
I'd keep the female in a separate cage and allow her to have out of cage time with the two males.

When the quarantine period is completed for the other female you can determine at that point in time whether it will be advisable to house all four together or if it would be best to keep only two budgies per cage.

You can then separate them into male/female pairs ensuring you discourage breeding or you can split them by gender.

I do not agree with the suppositions your Vet Tech posited.
I keep my females housed separately from my males and it works out very well that way.
My females do not get either "hormonal" or broody and I always ensure they get only 8 hours of daylight per day.
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It's worth mentioning that while my birds are housed together, this has not been something I did overnight.

I got my first birds in 2015 and back then, they were kept in pairs. I observed their behaviours and split them male & female who naturally bonded, and caged them together.
I had one pair that had an issue with mating and took appropriate action to split them up and discourage their behaviour.

Only at the end of last year did the birds move in together and that was through slowly allowing them to get to know one another and bond as a flock.
It came down to having them this way because it was what they wanted. They would flock together in one cage and it became easier to allow them to be together than try and split them up.
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Thanks everyone. All good food for thought
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