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Budgie Breeding Before breeding any species, it is important to learn as much about the animals, their personalities and the best practices to follow for responsible and ethical breeding prior to making the commitment to take on the responsibility.
Thread Description:Male budgie is very angry sometimes after first egg laid.

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Old 01-27-2017, 02:32 AM
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Hey there, I ran into a problem where my budgies are fighting over eggs.

Male budgie seems to be working on family planning and will kick out female when she is incubating eggs.

He sometimes is kissing but then become angry.

Its their 3rd clutch, there was no result of first 2 clutches as budgie kept on kicking eggs out and won't let her incubate eggs.

Should I separate the male and female.

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From your description and given the fact there have been previous unsuccessful clutches where you ran into the exact same problem, a logical conclusion should have been reached.
It's very clear that your pair is not compatible and your male especially is not at all fit to breed and raise a family (not mentally fit nor does he have the adequate temperament for it).

How many eggs are currently in the nest?
Did you see your budgies mating consistently and have you checked the current eggs for fertility?
If they are infertile or no longer viable due to the male's interference, then the best option is to remove the nest box, discard the eggs and take the necessary steps to prevent further breeding behaviour: When We Don't Want Eggs!
Since the male shows definite signs of aggression towards his mate (kicking her out, fighting, etc), then housing your budgies separately and on a permanent basis would also be the best option.
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Thanks for your answer Aluz. They don't really hate each other. They are kissing each other, both usually sit in the nest, male feeds female but there are some times he gets aggressive. Their is just one egg yet. I don't see them mating too often. One of the eggs in their 2nd clutch seemed to have a kid in them but male threw it out of the nesting box.

I separated them today but their love showed at that time. They don't seem to be happy without each other. Now I have put the male back and he is behaving well after the punishment.
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While I understand your desire to have budgie chicks, given the circumstances it's simply best to interrupt this breeding attempt while it's still at the very beginning.
By placing your male budgie back in and continuing on with the breeding, you will be risking the very life of your female budgie (the level of aggression in a budgie can escalate quite fast and exponentially increase when in breeding condition and during the breeding journey).
It's not recommended to breed from budgies who have more of an aggressive temperament because not only the female but also the whole clutch would be at serious risk of being severely injured/killed. Temperament is also inheritable, so the chances for the chicks to get the father's aggressiveness would also be higher.

Even if you were to separate you male and let the female to carry on in laying a full clutch and incubation, the whole process would be compromised due to the lack of support from a good mate (in terms of feeding the female and making sure she is well care for while incubating) and the chances for the female to get too overwhelmed would be much higher and so would the chances for nest abandonment.
If one or more chicks were to hatch and would need to be saved by you due to parental neglect/abandonment/abuse, would you be able to hand feed and raise the chick(s)?
Do you have any previous experience in doing so?

Your female has gone through 2 full clutches previously which were all fruitless, it's not fair to let her go for another round given what has happened in the past and knowing the support of the male would be non-existent, not to mention the threat he poses to his mate and the eggs/chicks.
She would only be tiring herself and depleting her calcium reserves for nothing by laying a third full clutch.

Again, I will reiterate this because I firmly believe that for both of your budgies' welfare and safety, the best option is to end this breeding attempt and to simply give up on it, because they are not a good match and your male should never be on any future breeding plans.
Just because your male is sometimes loving towards his mate that doesn't mean he will not attack her or any eggs again.
Aggressive budgies can still mate with a given partner and the next day or hour can seriously injure the mate, it only takes a split second for tragedy to happen and by keeping your budgies together, you will be taking that risk.

Think carefully on this and make your decision by not placing your desires/personal expectations first. The general health, safety and happiness of a pet should always come first.

If you actually let your budgies to adjust to the changes after being separated, they will eventually calm down.
During the first couple of weeks you can even place your male's cage on a different room, close both doors and have some music on in each room they are in, so that any flock calling is muffled.
To help the budgies settle, you can also cover their cages on 3 sides. Dividing your time between them and taking the opportunity to reconnect with each of your budgies by spending one-on-one quality time with them will also do wonders.
In case you don't know, budgies do not respond positively to "punishment", nor this is something that would be effective in terms of correcting a bad behaviour.
The right way to proceed is by using positive reinforcement techniques that reward good behaviour: Using Positive Reinforcement in Training
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Please listen to Aluz. She is an expert.

Regardless whether your pair of budgies are compatible, the pair of budgies in your signature's photo appear to be too young to breed.
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Hello,

You've been given excellent advice by Aluz and there's nothing I can add except for to affirm that all her information is undeniably correct; for your budgie's health and well being you must discourage breeding at this time.
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