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Old 05-28-2008, 12:16 AM
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Are pine shavings really ok to use in budgie nest boxes? I was told it was on another forum but most animals are allergic to pine and it can cause repiratory problems. is it not teh same for birds?

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im not sure I use it for my lizards though, the like to hide in it and if the eat only alittle it wont hurt them much, but could be a diffrent type of wood? aslong as its untreated.
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Pine shavings and Cedar Shavings are bad- I would use carefresh bedding. I wouldn't use shavings anyway because they might hurt any babies
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Pine shavings are fine, though cedar are not. Pine needles, sap (and therefore bark) are dangerous because of the scent, but the wood itself is fine.

One of the 'tricks' around here is for companies to mix cedar with pine. Just look in the bag before you buy it. If's it's all light wood, it's perfect. if there are chunks of red stuff or bark, don't.

if you are still concerned, you could also go the free route and tear up some newspapers (veggie based ink only!)
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yea, someone told me it wasnt necessary to use carefresh and that pine shavings would be better since the little pieces of wood and stuff would give the babies something to grip. theres nothing much i can do now tho since i've already got pineshavings in the box and if i take out the box i'll stress the parents which i hate doing. should i anyway though?
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yeah i also been told to use pine shavings, all the breeders i have ever been to use it aswell and the birds grow up lovely
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all pine shavings i've been around is scented - and ANY scent can kill a bird

I only use carefresh bedding and they grip on to it just fine, They always bring a chunk out with them when i pick them up to check them, clean thier feet/ bands, etc

Plus shavings of any kind are not very absorbant like the care fresh bedding is

I won't even use any shavings, or that corn cob bedding stuff in thier cages i use newspapers
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i use unscented/untreated pine shavings in my cages as a 'litter' it does soak up the water and poo ect ...
ANCS (Australian National Cockatiel Society) and the NSW Budgerigar Society both recommend pine shavings (unscented/untreated) to be used in nestboxes...

and when i have nest boxes set up this is what i use, i also know a few breeders of budgies,
cockatiels and other Aussie grass parrots like Bourkes and Red Rumps, they use pine shavings for them as well...

i would never use corn cob bedding, and i do use newspaper in the bottom of my cages with grates, but i dont use printed newspaper, i buy the 'end rolls' from the place that prints the newspapers, is basically like a big roll of 'butcher paper'....

the only people i have ever known to buy 'nesting material' other than pine shavings, have generally been 'hobby' breeders who think that the cost amounts to quality...
but that is here in Australia, we dont have 'care fresh bedding' over here (at least no where i have seen) but even if we did, i probably wouldnt buy it, unscented pine shavings do quite well for me, so i have no need to pay more for something different...
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I've never heard of unscented pine shavings. The kind I've got smell good, like pine but are rather strong smelling. i'll tear up newspaer with veggie based ink then.
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Are pine shavings really ok to use in budgie nest boxes? I was told it was on another forum but most animals are allergic to pine and it can cause repiratory problems. is it not teh same for birds?

No, allergies are not the problem with pine shaveings. The problem is that many times a chemical is used to speed the drying process. This is not harmeful for horses, but is toxic for birds - baby birds. Been there done that! I got hold of a bag of shavings that contained this chemical and lost ever baby dove who was in a nest basket filled with them. I'm glad it was only baby doves and not my $600/each baby Jardine parrots! Once I replaced the nesting material with something else I didn't loose any more baby doves.

For all my hookbills I now use shredded aspin in my nest boxes.


Cedar shaves are not to be used with birds at all because of the harsh smell.
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