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Question My baby budgies are in love- are they trying to mate?

Hi everyone,

After my budgie Budd passed away early last year, I wasn't sure if I'd ever open my heart to another, but this past christmas my boyfriend's mum bought me a baby budgie after asking me what I wanted- I had been thinking about it for a while. I named him Ollie- he's super cute. But since I started uni full time, I noticed he wasn't as chirpy as usual so I got him a girlfriend to keep him company, and named her Daisy.

Within 10 minutes of meeting eachother they became super affectionate and so happy. I love to watch them preen and kiss eachother, and even feed eachother. Sometimes though, Ollie gets super close to Daisy making her walk back to the wall of the cage, and he will lift his foot on her momentarily and stretch his neck making himself taller over her and she will always hop away. This doesn't look aggressive at all, they adore eachother. He has never gotten on/behind her with his wing out that I've seen.

They are super young. Ollie I'm guessing is around 8 months and Daisy probably a little over 2. They are way too young to breed. But they absolutely love eachother so If I can help it I wouldn't want to separate them. I've looked up on breeding and I've read that the female budgie will only allow the male mount her if there is a nest box, but I've read the exact opposite from other people too.

Please guys, arm me with info- all is appreciated.
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Ollie and Daisy are both adorable!

I hope you quarantined Daisy for the appropriate amount of time before introducing her to Ollie?

Quarantine means housing the new bird in a different cage in a different room than the current bird (as far away from the room the current bird is in as possible) for a period of 35-45 days.

Budgies mask symptoms when they are ill. Symptoms may not show up for over two weeks.
Often you will not even realize your bird is not well. Many budgie illnesses are airborne which is why you need to quarantine your new bird in a completely different room.

It is also a good idea to always take a new budgie in to see an Avian Vet for a "well-birdie" check-up. This allows you to develop a good relationship with the vet and the vet can establish a baseline for your bird in case of any future illnesses or injuries.

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With regard to breeding, you need to ensure you never put anything in the cage that can be used as a nesting site. When either of the budgies come into condition, limit the amount of protein in their diets during that period and ensure they get no more than 8 hours of daylight each day.
Rearranging the cage frequently and moving it from room to room will also help.

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Hi FaeryBee- thanks so much for your info.

I have a question about limiting their daylight to 8 hours- can you explain why this is?

I'll visit those links you posted. Thanks again!!
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Ollie isn't trying to mate with Daisy (yet).

He is "courting" her and letting her know he's quite interested in her at this time.

In the wild, budgies breed when there is more light, the food supplies are good, etc.
Limiting the amount of daylight budgies in captivity receive will help to throw them out of their breeding cycle.

Unless they are in condition, you can allow them to have more daylight than 8 hours.
Just ensure they have a minimum of 10-12 hours of darkness and quiet.
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Do you saying he's courting her because of their affection for eachother? I read those links, Thankyou.

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Ollie isn't trying to mate with Daisy (yet).

He is "courting" her and letting her know he's quite interested in her at this time.

In the wild, budgies breed when there is more light, the food supplies are good, etc.
Limiting the amount of daylight budgies in captivity receive will help to throw them out of their breeding cycle.

Unless they are in condition, you can allow them to have more daylight than 8 hours.
Just ensure they have a minimum of 10-12 hours of darkness and quiet.
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I say he is "courting" her because of his attempt to make himself look big and tall to impress her.
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Hi again Deborah,

So I have been reading and re-reading these two articles on budgie breeding:
What Is Breeding Condition? - Cute Little Birdies Aviary
When We Don't Want Eggs! - Cute Little Birdies Aviary
and I just want to make sure that I'm understanding what I've read.

It's okay for me to have my budgies up and awake for more than 8 hours when they aren't in breeding condition, obvious indicators of them being in breeding condition would be the male's cere is deep blue and female's dark tan/brown.

My budgies are only babies still, so their cere's will develop more in colour as they mature, right? Can that be confused with them being in breeding condition? Is it possible for them to be in breeding condition while being so young?

Ollie is courting Daisy but it seems conflicting because he isn't in breeding condition.

Is it okay for them to want to mate even though they are so young? I have read several people's experiences about their budgies actually breeding without a nesting box, so as long as I be careful by changing their cage settings around and making sure there's nothing that daisy can use as a nest, along with limiting daylight to 8 hours (when theyre in condition) hopefully this can be avoided, yes?

I have read that female budgies will lay infertile eggs anyway even if she was kept alone much like a chicken. I was just wondering, how do we know when to freak out about her laying eggs.

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Ollie isn't trying to mate with Daisy (yet).

He is "courting" her and letting her know he's quite interested in her at this time.

In the wild, budgies breed when there is more light, the food supplies are good, etc.
Limiting the amount of daylight budgies in captivity receive will help to throw them out of their breeding cycle.

Unless they are in condition, you can allow them to have more daylight than 8 hours.
Just ensure they have a minimum of 10-12 hours of darkness and quiet.
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Yes, budgies may try to mate even when they are not in breeding condition.

Budgies as young as 6 months can lay an egg although it isn't a good thing for them to do so.
It would be similar to a 10 year old child being pregnant.

Discouraging breeding by ensuring there is nothing in the cage that can be used as a nest and rearranging the cage frequently will help prevent the birds from becoming "broody".
When neither bird is in breeding condition, you may allow them to have more daylight. Just ensure they are getting a minimum of 10-12 hours of darkness during that time.

When a female budgie goes into breeding condition, the cere generally turns a brownish color and becomes crusty looking. Males with a blue cere will have the color deepen into a dark royal blue when in condition.

Most female budgies will not lay eggs when they are alone unless they are a "chronic" layer or the conditions in their environment stimulate them into breeding condition.
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