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Hi everyone! I'm torn about how to handle the living situation for my 3 budgies (2 male, 1 female). I've had the female (Sharky) and one male (Old Blue) for almost a year. They were adopted separately and get along but I wouldn't consider them bonded.

I adopted the second male (Mr Tweet) about 6 months ago....Old Blue is super energetic and poor Sharky was getting pestered for attention all the time. Thought he could use another friend to get more attention (and to give Sharky a break).

They all got along very well until about a month ago. Then I started to notice Mr Tweet chasing Old Blue around the cage a lot and pushing him off the top of the boing (their favorite spot!). The boys starting squaring off a lot...standing tall with head feathers puffed up, eyes pinned, and pushing their chests towards each other. I presume this is a hormonal issue and it seems to go in waves...they'd be mostly happy with minimal squabbles for a few days and then it flares up again.

Mr Tweet had to be on antibiotics for the last two weeks so I've had him in separate cage next to theirs. During this two weeks they've all been very a bit quieter and Mr Tweet has been very subdued...although they seemed to want to sit "near" each other...sitting as close as they can to the bird in the other cage, chattering back and forth. Tonight his medication ended and I let them all out together and of course he went right back into the main cage.....and the aggressive behavior started again.

They seem to want to be together when they are apart but the aggression is concerning.I hate to leave them in the same cage if this is causing a lot of stress for Sharky & Old Blue. Old Blue does not seem to be aggressive but appears to be just responding to Mr Tweet's behavior and defending himself. There hasn't been any actual biting or blood shed but I'm concerned about the stress this could be causing and if the fighting could escalate.

I'd love to get some advice from the group...I keep going back and forth on what to do. Should I keep him separate temporarily or permanently? Let them stay together & work it out since there hasn't been any physical injury?

I have been considering adopting a 4th....but now I'm worried how he might react to a new bird.

Would appreciate any advice you can share

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Just a disclaimer: I definitely wouldn't call myself an expert and hope someone more experienced corrects me if I'm wrong about anything (I'm still learning too!).

My personal advice would be to separate them for a little while.
Usually male budgies do not attack other budgies, male or female, in a way that results in extensive injury. They definitely do squabble with other males (and females) however this is just part of their normal behaviour - especially if they are hormonal.
Another thing to consider is your cage size. Bigger is obviously always better, so you need to make sure that your cage is big enough for Old Blue to get away from Mr Tweet if he feels stressed. For example, budgies in an aviary will regularly squabble (especially if hormonal), however it is not a problem since they have adequate space to get away from their 'annoyer'.
As long as your cage is big enough for another budgie I see no problem in getting a fourth and having them all living together.
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Hi, mnbirdiegirl! I am also not an expert, just giving my opinion. I would leave "aggressive" bird separate permanently, with monitored time together out of cage. In that case, you must be "special friend" to single budgie, so he wouldn/t be bored or lonely.
I would not recommend 4th bird, because you can not know will all of them get along well. Maybe aggressiveness is in your bird character.
Again, I am not an expert. Best luck.
 
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Bringing a third budgie often ends up with this sort of dynamic, especially when having different genders.
You have one budgie who is left out.
In this situation, and given your birds personalities, I would try putting Sharky in a cage on her own and moving her into a different room for a while.
This will help the males hormones to calm down a little.
See how Mr Tweet and Old Blue do together without a female. As there's been no violence and it seems to be hormonal, they might work better this way. The room you move Sharky too can have music on so she doesn't feel so lonely. It may be nice for her to have a break and not be bothered by the males for a bit.

If the boys get along well together with no problems, you can see how they do if you move Sharky back in to the same room. If things go the same way, you can either keep Sharky in her own room, or put her back with Old Blue and keep the boys in their own cages.

The budgies are always going to want to be together as it's natural for them as a flock bird. You'll just have to decide what dynamic works best ad safest for your little flock.

I would also look at the size of the cage your budgies are in and make sure it's large enough and make sure you have enough perches at the same height, swings and food and water pots, to minimialise any trouble.

Also, if you do keep Mr Tweet alone, I would let him have some out of cage time alone first to work off some energy.
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It is never recommended to house two budgies of one gender with a single budgie of another gender.

Therm has offered you excellent advice and I would recommend you try her suggestions.

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Thanks for the suggestions. I kept Mr Tweet separate again last night, since he had already been separated for medication the last couple weeks. Today, I let Mr Tweet out first for out of cage time and he flew around a bunch and spent time climbing all over the main cage. That was a great suggestion Therm - I think he was able to burn off some energy! Then I opened the door for the other birds and things went pretty well. A few brief flare ups but I was able to distract them right away and they didn't escalate.

The suggestion for a larger cage is a good one too. Our current cage is 34Wx35Hx21D. Our vet thought it was good for up to 4 or 5 budgies but I think in this case that may not work. I'd been looking at a double flight cage that is almost twice the size of their current cage (64"W), so went ahead and ordered that today. It also has a divider that can be put in the middle, so that may be a good option to use if we end up needing a permanent separation.

None of my budgies are tame, so I'm hopeful they can continue being together, since I know I'm not their first choice for a buddy We've been working hard at getting them to come out of their cage, so at least if they can get along for out of cage time that will be good.
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