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Aquiel
05-16-2006, 04:25 PM
I have a bit of a delema, I got my two birds and at the last minute, my friend got two as well.
Our "plan" initially was to keep them at our barn, however, It was a bit to cold for them there, so we brought them to my house.
Now I'm taking care of my two and her two budgies.
She keeps talking about how she will take them back... soon... eventually....
First she talked of taking them to the barn again... she brought some particle board down and said she was going to construct the "cage" out of that.
Next, she talked about taking them to her house, as her boyfriends' father had bought a massive bird cage and was going to get a bird... and he might let her two live with his.
Now, I saw the cage, it is big, however, I'm not sure that they would have the best of care...
and her boyfriends younger brothers are loud and rough... and I dont know where the cage will go, it may go outside in their shed, or it the house that is kept VERY unclean.
So should I just offer her the money she paid for the budgies and keep them myself? or should I just let well enough alone?
I dont "need" four budgies, however its not that big of a deal for me to care for them. And I'm sure This and That will be sad to lose thier buddies.
They have their own cage here, and they get food and water on a regular basis, I chat with them on a daily, and play their favorite music for them. I even join them for a few rounds of their favorite song.
Opinions?
:budgie:

Budgie_Birthday
05-16-2006, 04:40 PM
It sound as though they are technically yours. You are taking care of them, she isn't. If she doesn't have the responsibility to get a cage, get food, etc., then I say you tell her that if she doesn't claim them soon, you will give her the money and keep them. They sound as if they would do better with you.

bluebird
05-16-2006, 04:43 PM
well personaly, id offer to take care of them, from what you say i think youre friend had good intentions but sounds as if she has lost intrest.If youre friend is not willing to give them the time they deserve then i think they would be better of with you,you are obviously concerned for them ,if you can manage 4 budgies then i vote they stay with you :)

Aquiel
05-16-2006, 04:50 PM
well personaly, id offer to take care of them, from what you say i think youre friend had good intentions but sounds as if she has lost intrest.If youre friend is not willing to give them the time they deserve then i think they would be better of with you,you are obviously concerned for them ,if you can manage 4 budgies then i vote they stay with you :)


Its not that she "lost" interest, she didn't really have alot to begin with.
She bought them on impulse, and figured that theyd be fine with whatever she did with them.

Bea
05-16-2006, 06:46 PM
It sounds like she's planning on keeping them with another type of bird at her house anyway which is a BIG no-no! :eek: You seem to be their owner anyway and if she had little initial interest then i can't see why she'd want them back.

Budgie_Birthday
05-16-2006, 06:49 PM
It sounds like she's planning on keeping them with another type of bird at her house anyway which is a BIG no-no! :eek: You seem to be their owner anyway and if she had little initial interest then i can't see why she'd want them back.

Well said, Bea! I agree completely with that. :)

Aquiel
05-16-2006, 07:13 PM
It sounds like she's planning on keeping them with another type of bird at her house anyway which is a BIG no-no! :eek: You seem to be their owner anyway and if she had little initial interest then i can't see why she'd want them back.

I think the other kind of bird maybe another budgie...

While she may have "little" interest... her mind thats still enough reason to keep the things... especially if I do say, "can i have them?".

How do I approach her, she's my best friend, and I don't want to create a "rift", she belives animals should be kept in a manner which is different then I am keeping her birds.
Her idea is that to tame them, you need to overwhelm them (even if its once a week... or once a month)... if they breed, they breed... they need the biggest space possible... they'll get food and water when someone remembers and if they fit into your hand they dont get vet care.
I know I just painted my friend as a horrible animal owner, but shes not. She just has different "ideas".

Bea
05-16-2006, 08:49 PM
Well i think it would be irresponsible to let her keep budgies. No offense but if she won't give the vet care if they need it she doesn't deserve them. She also doesn't sound like the kind of person who'd give them daily veggies, cuttlebones, pellets, etc.

Amy
05-17-2006, 05:08 PM
I totally agree with Bea!

Kelly27
05-17-2006, 05:21 PM
Keep them! They sound like they are in the best of care with you, instead of being kept in a dirty, unsafe and loud area. If i were a budgie, i would love to have an owner like you!
Kelly
xXx :budgie:

Amy
05-17-2006, 05:22 PM
Oooh heaven!

Aquiel
05-23-2006, 05:52 PM
here's an up-date.
When I bought my two lovebirds yesterday, I told my friend that I was buying Pax and Starlight a new cage and she could either take them back or let them be at my house.
She took it the wrong way and we kinda arranged to meet up at the barn and she would take them home.
As it turned out, she was going to leave them at the barn for a day or two and outside at her house or?.... she didn't have a place for them, and was going to come up with "something".
I told her that was unaccepable and when she had a proper safe place in her house she could take them.
I ended up getting quite short with her as I ve been working to tame them, and she's going to go do something compeletly different, and when I told her whats worked, she joking said she'd "suffocate" them like i was doing if they didn't come around by her means.
All Ive been doing is using a towel to restrain their bodies and i've been holding them and etc.... I guess thats suffocating them...
I basically told her again, they wouldn't be leaving untill I was certain they would be safe, and to that she made it clear shed do what shed want and if that ment leaving them at the barn in a "cage" made of partical board thats what shed be doing.
So for the time being they are still at my house, they've been moved across the room, they can still chat with This and That and the two new additions... but ya...

Mavish
05-23-2006, 08:28 PM
hmmm... It's a hard situation. Either you give her the budgies which she won't take care of or keep them and there will be a huge dent in your friendship.

I dont even think it's a matter of her wanting the budgies anymore but her wanting to feel in control?

Budgiekin
05-23-2006, 09:29 PM
I agree with newbudgie101; I think it is now a control issue. Obviously if we are considering the best interests of the budgies, they would stay with you as you are willing and able to give them the appropriate care. Are you willing to dent your friendship; that I guess is the question...

Smoothy
05-24-2006, 10:28 AM
It really sounds to my like she wants these birds to be a "display" rather than a pet that she has to care for. Caring for 4 birds is like taking care of a baby, they have life, they need food, water, someone to be there for them, shelter and she cant do that for them. Her intentions are good and all but she has no knowledge of what these birds want and need in order to survive, if she did take them home and something happened to them then guess what buddie, she'd bring them back to you and let you handle the problem.
I say keep the birds, your doing a better job than she is.