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Well i am getting EXTREMELY frustrated with Rat (Blink). Everytime i need him to go in his cage he decides it's not time yet and no matter what i (or anyone else) try he just won't go in. I just spent about 15 minutes trying to bribe him into his cage with mirrors, trying to throw a sheet over him, trying to lure him into a corner so i could grab him. I hate chasing him around like i often have to because it's encouraging him as he thinks it's a fantastic game. Sometimes it nearly makes me cry with frustration!!! :mad: It's a very serious problem as if this problem gets worse i won't be able to get him out for a quick 30 min fly before school in the mornings or at any other time when i don't have hours to sit and supervise him. On the rare occasion that he will go in his cage without a fuss i tell him how good he is and sit and praise him for a little while but it's getting less and less often that he will go in without a game. :eek: I don't know what to doooo. :(
Another problem which i may as well complain about while i'm here is that he's getting really cheeky and always trying to play on the floor. With mum not being able to see and the dogs this is obviously not at all safe and i always chase him off the floor as soon as he flies down. The problem is that he knows it's naughty. All i have to do is stand up and take a step in his direction and he'll fly to his cage landing with a VERY EVIL happy dance. As soon as i turn around to sit down he swoops straight back down! Idiot budgie! What should i do?
Oh dear! What a problem. I'll have to think about that one, I'll edit when I've thought.:(
seohsnaeb
04-30-2006, 04:30 AM
yeah im having problems getting zero + beaky to go back into their cage, they sit on top of the curtains where i cant reach + run along it away from me as soon as i get up on a chair to catch them. zreo will sometimes step up onto my finger but as soon as i get him to the cage he'll fly away :( beaky still isnt too comfortable with my hand out of the cage, but she'll sometimes step p onto a stick, but again she'll fly away as soon as we get near the cage. i'm seriously considering getting their wings clipped, just until i can get them to be a bit less naughty!! i've got quite a big room, so i reckon there'll be enough space for them to run around + i can stick up some more ropes + stuff for them to hop along. have you considered maybe wing clipping?
When he was a baby he was clipped and i don't believe it will help with the floor problem, i think it would mean he was on the floor more often as he wouldn't be able to fly back up. I also couldn't bring myself to rob him of something he loves, he's my baby and i don't want to upset him. Tameness isn't a problem, he's tame and he always hangs out on me and plays with me. For him this is a big game, 100% fun....that's the problem!
seohsnaeb
04-30-2006, 07:38 AM
ah ok, um, in that case i dont know what to suggest, sorry. good luck with him :)
seohsnaeb
04-30-2006, 12:39 PM
ive had an idea!! it might not work, but if youre really stuck you could give it a try, if he thinks that u chasing him is all a game, maybe ignore him wen he does it, then he'll learn that if he's naughty he wont get any attention from his mum! u'll probably have to keep him in a room where the dogs couldnt possibly get in to try this out, i reckon it would work in theory, but it depends how naughty he wants to be! or every time hes naughty go + do something really exciting with ozzie + blink'll get jealous + come back to u? good luck! :)
Mistyoriline
04-30-2006, 02:42 PM
You have to find a way to show him your in control
Crystal_Dawn
04-30-2006, 02:48 PM
i think those are very good tactics! let us know how they go :)
He and Ozzie would play on the floor all day if i let them so i'm afraid that probably won't work. Like you said, it's good in theory so thanks. :)
A member from another forum has given me some fantastic advice which i'm going to put into action in about 10 mins when it's time for Blink and Oz to go away and me to go to school (*cries*). Use positive reinforcment. So i'll have some millet, which he loves, and i'll get him to step up then give him a millet reward. Take a few steps towards his cage and reward, take a few more steps and reward, etc etc until i'm at his cage (hopefully), then see if he'll follow the millet in. :D She's also recommended clicker training. I have a clicker so she's going to help me learn to apply the technique to budgies.
He and Ozzie would play on the floor all day if i let them so i'm afraid that probably won't work. Like you said, it's good in theory so thanks. :)
A member from another forum has given me some fantastic advice which i'm going to put into action in about 10 mins when it's time for Blink and Oz to go away and me to go to school (*cries*). Use positive reinforcment. So i'll have some millet, which he loves, and i'll get him to step up then give him a millet reward. Take a few steps towards his cage and reward, take a few more steps and reward, etc etc until i'm at his cage (hopefully), then see if he'll follow the millet in. :D She's also recommended clicker training. I have a clicker so she's going to help me learn to apply the technique to budgies.
Not to compare birds to people, but we do use the positive reinforcement method at camp with kids who don't always behave well. It works good with them. Blinkie seems to be acting just like a little kid who loves the attention and everything. :P I say give it a try.
I had a little go with that this morning and he thought it was a bit silly. I'm working on clicker training him and in just 5 mins i think it's going GREAT! First i just clicked - treat about 5 times to get him to associate the sound of the clicker with a treat. Then in a couple of minutes i had him giving me a kiss when i said kiss with the aid of the clicker. It's great! I'm very hopeful that this will be successful! :D
Wow! That was quick Bea! Good Luck!
Mistyoriline
05-01-2006, 01:41 PM
let me know if the clicker works I really wanted to look into trying that....thanks Bea
Glad to hear it's working! :D
Crystal_Dawn
05-01-2006, 05:50 PM
whats a clicker?!!!
It's a training aid that's being used more and more commonly. I believe they are used in the movie business for training all sorts of animals. :D
http://www.clickertrain.com/whatis.html
Crystal_Dawn
05-01-2006, 07:28 PM
wow!! I WANT ONE!!! :p
You can pick them up in pet shops and on ebay pretty cheap. About $5 i think. :)
I'm going to have to check this out. Thanks for the tip Bea! :D
Crystal_Dawn
05-01-2006, 09:12 PM
sweeet! :D
There is a horse pic on that site! Oooh!
Just thought i'd update you on Blinkie's clicker training. I think it's going well. He has learned to come when called before but he can be stubborn, with the aid of the clicker and the motivation of some millet i can stand several feet away and say "Blinkie come!" and he'll zoom over, often before i've finished saying the words. :P He gets so excited when he sees me get the clicker. :D Now i'm working on getting him to come when called and then walking around with him staying on me, that way i should be able to start moving towards his cage. ;)
Bo Vine
05-05-2006, 07:57 PM
Birds like their freedom. But there has to be a limit or they'll refuse to go back inside. Try chasing your bird for a while without allowing him to perch anywhere and he'll eventually get the message that play time is over.
No way, i don't want to do anything that would make him scared of me. :(
Debby
05-06-2006, 10:18 AM
I concur with the positive reinforcement Bea! Our little feathered friends have their own little personalities and can be little rebels at time. Although I sympathize with your predictament, I must admit, I had a chuckle over the evil dance :party2: My Tiki will sometimes do that as well after being naughty!! As if they are sooo proud, huh!! Good luck on your situation, I hope the millet helps. Also, if you do employ the click training pls let us know.
rude-girl
05-06-2006, 02:56 PM
Well i am getting EXTREMELY frustrated with Rat (Blink). Everytime i need him to go in his cage he decides it's not time yet and no matter what i (or anyone else) try he just won't go in. I just spent about 15 minutes trying to bribe him into his cage with mirrors, trying to throw a sheet over him, trying to lure him into a corner so i could grab him. I hate chasing him around like i often have to because it's encouraging him as he thinks it's a fantastic game. Sometimes it nearly makes me cry with frustration!!! :mad: It's a very serious problem as if this problem gets worse i won't be able to get him out for a quick 30 min fly before school in the mornings or at any other time when i don't have hours to sit and supervise him. On the rare occasion that he will go in his cage without a fuss i tell him how good he is and sit and praise him for a little while but it's getting less and less often that he will go in without a game. :eek: I don't know what to doooo. :(
Another problem which i may as well complain about while i'm here is that he's getting really cheeky and always trying to play on the floor. With mum not being able to see and the dogs this is obviously not at all safe and i always chase him off the floor as soon as he flies down. The problem is that he knows it's naughty. All i have to do is stand up and take a step in his direction and he'll fly to his cage landing with a VERY EVIL happy dance. As soon as i turn around to sit down he swoops straight back down! Idiot budgie! What should i do?
my budgie coral does dat 1 tyme i spent hours trying 2 get him in in the end i left him there for a bit and den when i came back he didnt even move i was so hot and enoyed my dad had 2 take me out and buy me a net 2 catch him its a good way but dont use it all the tyme because he / she still needs 2 get used 2 u but i had a smaller cage den and i couldnt fit him through the door but i ave a massaive cage now wihch could probably av 3 budgies in the lucky fings
got the whole cage 2 him slef
but when he wants 2 he will go in his cage but if he dont coral will let u no hes prop finking i ent dne yet so i ent going in and he ent ready 2 like in the morning sum tymes i dnt get a chance 2 get him out so when i *** home from skool he dont go in for tyme but ur bugie will learn just be calm u need paients but i ent got any lol
Again, i'm not netting Blinkie, that would scare him so badly! :eek: Just a tip but you cannot easily 'discipline' a bird. They don't respond to it at all. Reinforce good behaviour and ignore bad, it works much much better!
I agree! I say 'no when they do something naughty and praise them when they do good, sometimes with millet.:p
Budgie_Birthday
05-07-2006, 11:11 AM
Pickle and Blueberry haven't really done anything to be scolded for. Well, maybe Blueberry bit once or twice, but other than that nothing.:)
Budgie_Birthday
05-08-2006, 03:38 PM
:o Thanks. Just a heads up: I might post some pics of my sweeties soon! I need to borrow my step-dad's camera though! :)
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