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: Why need to separate


Jag
02-04-2011, 11:17 PM
Hi Frineds,

Why nee to separate a pair of budgie went breeding? I have a friend just leave all budgies in aviary and his budgie breed freely and went he do not want the budgie to breed, he simply remove all nestbox. Budgie suppose to be a flock bird and why mos breeder separate them went breeding? May be some going for selection breeding I guess.

What is your view????????????:budgie::S

orangemelodie
02-04-2011, 11:21 PM
I think part of it is to do selective breeding, part to avoid brothers breeding with sisters, etc, and part is that it is easier to monitor the chicks. also other birds might go in and toss the eggs or chicks out.
but see if the pros have anything to add

CaptainHowdy
02-05-2011, 07:32 AM
It is safer for the birds in my opinion.

Not only can you do the obvious and select which birds to pair up to get certain colours and traits, you can also prevent brother/ sister, mother/ son, father/ daughter pairings happening.

You can also stop any birds carrying genetic illnesses or any illness from breeding.

Also in an aviary setting you have to be careful about the placement of nest boxes, the ratio of nestboxes to pairs, also the ratio of cocks to hens and even then some birds will fight to the death over a mate, certain nesting site, you could end up with chicks being killed etc. It is much easier to monitor your birds in a breeding cage and to see right away if something is wrong and take action, I also find it does not disturb the birds as much as they are not as stressed in the breeding cage as they don't have to worry about another birds trying to steal their nest box etc.

Robo Hip
02-05-2011, 07:39 AM
It is safer for the birds in my opinion.

Not only can you do the obvious and select which birds to pair up to get certain colours and traits, you can also prevent brother/ sister, mother/ son, father/ daughter pairings happening.

You can also stop any birds carrying genetic illnesses or any illness from breeding.

Also in an aviary setting you have to be careful about the placement of nest boxes, the ratio of nestboxes to pairs, also the ratio of cocks to hens and even then some birds will fight to the death over a mate, certain nesting site, you could end up with chicks being killed etc. It is much easier to monitor your birds in a breeding cage and to see right away if something is wrong and take action, I also find it does not disturb the birds as much as they are not as stressed in the breeding cage as they don't have to worry about another birds trying to steal their nest box etc.

:iagree: There is not much if anything to add to Amelia's post. Personally I do not agree with communal breeding and much prefer to seperate and allow each pair their own cabinet. I know I may get slammed by folk who may communal breed - however this is the choice I have made and believe it safer for the parents. You can also monitor their food and water cunsumption and also make it easier to intervene if and when required.

SpickyDavies
02-05-2011, 09:12 AM
it bazzles me why people still colony breed

Robo Hip
02-05-2011, 09:14 AM
I'm not sure either :S

atvchick95
02-05-2011, 01:56 PM
I don't like aviary breeding I like to know who the parents are

I pull the male and female and put them in a cage of their own - they are still with their "flock" as all the birds are in the same room but its just the 2 of them in their breeding cage

But then again I breed for Mutations, temperament, size you can't do any of that in aviary breeding, plus doing Aviary breeding your risking the chance of eggs being broken, babies being killed and Adults being killed, when the pairs start fighting over nest boxes, Female budgies are known to get very hostile when breeding and will steal other budgies nest boxes and that means kicking out /destroying eggs, if there's babies they'd kill them to take over the nest box

and even though I breed for mutation,size, temperament etc. Most of my pairs still choose their own partners The only time I rally Choose for them is when I'm wanting a specific mutation but other than that I let them choose their own mate. The mutations I have all make very nice mutations even when they pair up on their own. I have a couple that's never bonded to any of the birds of the opposite sex so For those ones I do choose their mates as well, some times it works out other times it doesn't (meaning no eggs or babies are produced)

Ratzy
02-05-2011, 03:54 PM
I don't agree with colony breeding. Budgies are flock birds, yes, but in the wild there is an unlimited amount of space and 'nest boxes' to choose from and sort out problems. In the wild, only the fittest survive, so the chances of genetic defect are rare, and the chances of them breeding are rarer.