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ETAHoffman
04-25-2006, 01:59 PM
Over the past few weeks, I've read several posts mentioning that Grit is not only unnecessary but can actually be bad for parakeets. All the information I can gather, from books and other breeders, is opposite of this. Here are three examples:

From: Budgerigars In Colour - Their Care and Breeding by A. Rutgers and Cyril Rogers. (Chapter 5 - feeding)
"A plentiful supply of oyster grit and mineral grit is very important, and crushed, dried, domestic hens' egg shells will also be valuable. Quite apart from the fact that the birds need the grit to help them grind the seeds in their stomachs, it also contains a number of minerals indispensable for bodybuilding purposes."

From: Pet Library's - Parakeet Guide (Chapter 5 - Feeding and nutrition)
"Since the chief part of a budgie's diet is hard seed, it is essential to supply the bird with an ample quantity of mixed grit or gravel to help digest it. Budgerigars, like all birds, lack teeth, and "mastication" is performed internally in an organ known as the gizzard. The gizzard retains a quantity of these sharp-edged grits. The swallowed seeds go first into the crop, and then by degrees into the gizzard. There it is ground so that it can be assimilated. By constant grinding, these bits of gravel lose their sharp edges, wear down and are passed along and out of the body. Naturally, they must be replaced if the bird is to be kept in first rate condition, is it is necessary to always have a cup of mixed grit in the cage."

From: "Budgerigar Handbook" by Ernest H. Hart (Chapter 6 - Management and feeding)
"Grit and Cuttlebone - Grit acts as the teeth of the bird and is necessary for bird digestion. There are several commercial grits which contain supplementary minerals and are good products. ~ (In addition in this same part.) Milk is one of the best ways to feed calcium for it possesses a perfect balance of calcium and phosphorus. It is low in iron and copper but is a food rich in many other essentials, such as protein, fat, and sugar, all in a form which is almost completely assimilated."

I know, from having lived on a farm that chickens eat grit. Is there some new discovery that I've missed about feeding grit? All the breeders that I know and have had dealings with use grit and with no ill effects. What have I missed?

My birds devour grit and have had no problems.

Please share your comments on this as I'm quite confused on this issue. Thanks.

Amy
04-25-2006, 02:07 PM
Oh my goodness! *faints*

bluebird
04-25-2006, 02:13 PM
I totally agree with you , grit is neccessary.i have 7 different books on budgerigars by different experts in the fields of health,care.breeding etc.. In all the articales i have read every authour advises the use of grit.

the budgie eats the grit,but doesnt digest it , it is stored in the gizzard & grinds food as it passes through.Budgies dont have teeth for chewing & grinding & the grit does this job.Grit is essntial for digestion.


My babies have grit & ive had no problems,they dont eat loads of it but personally i recommend it.hope this helps.

Amy
04-25-2006, 02:14 PM
How old are the books though?

bluebird
04-25-2006, 02:17 PM
:mad: there all newly published Amy,go & have a look on any website & see the advice that is given about Grit. Its a personal choice no one is saying you must use grit but if the advice & facts are given it s up to people to accept it or not !!

Amy
04-25-2006, 02:32 PM
Oh. Ok! Sorry! I feed Oyster shell and crushed up egg shell and eggfood, but I can't find any grit in the shops!

cfnbryn
04-25-2006, 02:43 PM
i give grit and oyster shell (crushed), it states on my site (stop boasting .... NO!) that grit is necessary due to the fact that Budgerigars do not have teeth, grit is used inside different organs to help churn and digest the food properly, without it budgies find it quite hard to digest fully

Amy
04-25-2006, 02:46 PM
Oh, this will be fun, lets just wait and see what Budgiekin has to say. (I feel an arguement coming on!)

cfnbryn
04-25-2006, 03:19 PM
why do you say that?

Amy
04-25-2006, 03:43 PM
Well Budgiekin is a true believer that Grit is unnecessary. *Gulps*

Budgiekin
04-25-2006, 08:58 PM
Well, if you look at the purpose of grit in the diet, you will see that it is not only completely unnecessary, but it also can potentially lead to health problems. I'm not saying that small quantities are bad, or that they will certainly lead to health problems, but I just don't see the benefit.

Budgies in the wild do eat grit, but we are talking about pet budgies here. Their diets are completely different. Wild budgies must resort to whatever food is available, and not all of this food is easily digestible since many of the seeds have tough outer shells. Grit helps them break down those outer shells. Since pet budgies are generally fed seeds that can be easily hulled by their beaks, the seed portion that is eaten is easily digestible. As a result, no grit is required.

Not only do budgies simply not need it to break down the foods they eat, grit can actually irritate a budgie’s digestive system. As well, more serious problems can develop from consuming it, such as the development of a blockage in the digestive tract (in the crop, ventriculus or proventriculus). At the very least, a blockage would make your budgie very sick, but even worse is the fact that your budgie could die if the blockage is severe enough.

After having numerous discussions with my highly qualified avian vet, I have come to the conclusion that grit is not needed. Yes, I used to give Apollo grit occasionally, and he never had any issues arise as a result, but in retrospect, he really did not need it.

Mistyoriline
04-26-2006, 09:01 AM
I read all the time about budgies ...grit is not needed ya'll are rite:)

bluebird
04-26-2006, 09:35 AM
Well this certainly has got everyone talking :) nice to hear everyones opinons,i suppose its up to each of us to decide what we do for the best. after hearing the pros & cons for grit.