*** Budgie ??? is there any ???

[Safin]

:eek: Sorry I am asking a curious/ strange question, is there any male to male bonding Budgies ? Actually I do have 2 Sky Blue Male Budgie, I am confused about them. They always stay together, kiss, feed each other, they are king of twin brother/or can say Robot. Within that 2 Blue male, one do have girl friend/mate .. they are good pair, had mated and now girl friend have laid 4 eggs. He always kiss/prim/feed her BUT the OTHER Blue Male always with them, 3 of them always together except one Blue Male don’t mate with the female … when the female inside the Nest box on top the her Egg, that time those 2 Blue Male also stay together, fee/kiss each other except mating.
I am really so confused, I do have one extra Mature Female which I thought would pair with one of those 2 Blue Males But they don’t show any affection with her.
Do you have this kind of experience or can you explain what’s the real cause ???

[Zeena]

Budgies (especially males) are naturally affectionate. Kissing, preening, feeding and even mating dances are not only limited to male-female relationships. Males will do the same to other males as a form of bonding and a way of showing affection and same with girls- they will do the same to other females :)
Your three budgies seem really bonded which is great! However i do suggest that if the pair is breeding, they should be left in a separate cage without another budgie. It can lead to problems once the eggs hatch.
Hope that helps :)

[Safin]

Thanks for ur lovely good explanation

[Jimm-V]

Safin, sorry to hijack this thread.

Currently, I have 2 males and 1 female in a big cage :

1. Jimm-V, an English olive opaline spangle male.
2. Chassie, an ordinary opaline skyblue male
3. Snowy, an ordinary red-eyed creamino female

They live in harmony. Eating together. Playing together. Bonding together. Chirping together. In other words, all 3 budgies are being conditioned for another 3 months until early Feb 2010. If I attach a nestbox externally to the cage comes Feb 2010, can I hit 2 birds with one stone ? Meaning 2 dads to look after 1 mum and the babies. Can you foresee any problem ?

[Guthwulf]

It shouldnt be a problem Jimm. Most males do not fight. They can chase eachother around if one is more dominant over the other in regards to mating, but its the females that fight to the death.

[Jimm-V]

It shouldnt be a problem Jimm. Most males do not fight. They can chase eachother around if one is more dominant over the other in regards to mating, but its the females that fight to the death.

This is great. Thanks, Dean.

I will proceed as planned comes Feb 2010.

[Safin]

my pair doing fine, both the male feeding / protect the female when she is inside the box on top of the Eggs , and its true what Dean said, its the female who fight to death ... i do have an extra female which i thought would bond with the one of the 2 Males which i mentioned BUT bcs 2 Males r very bonded they don't want to make friendship with that extra Female ... now what happen , that female always try to fight with other Female which r already laid eggs.... i do have to catch the Female and put inside the cage otherwise other female ( with egg) would be harmed. Its very difficulty to catch that female, i tried couple of times but failed bcs most of my birds r inside the aviary.

[Onyx]

From my own observations, budgies seem to really like yellow faced ones. At one point in time we had four budgies (3 in one cage, with one that was hand fed and would only go in to visit occasionally). A yellow faced male & female, and a white faced male & female. Everyone liked the yellowfaced pair, and the white faced female pretty much got ignored. If one of your females is a yellowface and the other is a white face, that could be why they have that preference.

Could have just been my flock though, heh.

[Safin]

i just mentioned that females r the worst fighter, they r very selfish, never friendly and fight to death .......... very sad experiance happend this morning .. .. i have already mentioned that one of my extra female fight with other female who has 3 eggs, this morning have seen a broken egg on the floor then i saw that female ( with 3 eggs) is injured, deep scratch near her head .... i am sure that stupid lonely female did that & during the fighting she had laid egg, she is now very scared , don't go the next box, she is now sitting on the top of the stick near the roof alone .... but its encouraging that her male partner and other males feeding her/ kissing/loving her except that stupid female ... finally i caught her and put her in the separate cage ! ...... i don't know the Female would be ok or not, she is not going to the next box, 3 eggs left alone .... have seen another pair is very curious and went inside that next box, stayed couple of minutes and come out without any harm of the eggs ... what do u think, do they take care those eggs or .. ?

[Safin]

Good news ... injured female is fine and she is taking care her eggs now ....

[Akala]

So you mean if two males breed with one female and there is a large nesting box, and a large enough cage that they can get away from each other that the males will look over the eggs and the female? That would be so awesome.

[Safin]

Thanks dear Akala for ur post. No, its not the large cage ..... i do have a small aviary and 2 separate 24"x18"x18" cage, the pair ( 3 birds) i am taking about r in the aviary with another 12 birds ....u said 2 males breed with one female, actually yes but one of the only do sex with the female but other don't but he always stay very close, both othe males r feedind, preeing, kissing even try to mate each other, they always very close, taking care of the female and her eggs, guard her, feed, preen, kiss her ......its really a Lovely wonderfull bonding / experiance ...i am a new Bird owner / breeder, everyday i am learning and become emage the wonderful creation of God .... Thanks again for ur mail.
Take care,
Safin