Help Please!

[alicia]

my bird marddie has bonded with me a little but when i aproch him with a pice of apple or anything to play with or eat he shivers or he flys in his cage randomly scared its wierd and i have had him for 2 weeks and a few days and i wanna get him a play mate my mom says that i can get another at christmas will marddie hert the new bird if i get it at christmas or will he be fine or should i get one soon as posibil:S :( :budgie: :S :( :(

[BirdieBabi]

Well if you get it at Christmas you still have to Quarintine so you won't beable to let them meet for another month.

I don't think he would hurt him. Budgies like company so he will enjoy it. The only problem is that he would pay less attention to you

[Bea]

Even if you were to race out and buy one right now it would need to be quarantined for 30 days in a separate room, so it still wouldn't be a quick fix. As long as you introduce a new budgie properly they should get on but you have to be prepared to keep them in separate cages if they don't get along.

[alicia]

well what if i get it now
and all my friends that have budgies had 2 and there budgies bonded with them alout more than marddie dose with me oh im so confuzzel

[alicia]

i have a speerate cgae but.... i really think he needs a friend i just dont know if he will be nice to it becaus he wont stop sonding with my bedroom mirror

[Bea]

Read my first post. :) ^^^

Getting another budgie wont make your first one bond to you more - it will most likely have the opposite effect and you will have two untame budgies. If i were you i would wait and work with your current budgie. Once it's happy to play with you and hang out with you then think about getting it a friend. All budgies are different so just because your friends that have two budgies that are tame doesn't mean that if you got a second they would both be tame.

And the reason quarantine is so important is to prevent disease spreading. Budgies hide disease very well and that's why at least a month of supervision of any new budgie is so important. During this time the new bird and old bird can't see or make physical contact with each other. The spare cage will also come in handy for introductions. After quarantine you can put the two cages side by side so they can get used to each other, over a couple of weeks bring them out for playtime together and let them share the cages during the day, eventually if they get along they can spend nights together and then they'll be living together! :)

[alicia]

well i saw your videos and im varry jelous how come yours bond with you so well :(

[Bea]

It just takes lots of patience. Most budgies wont be tame and friendly overnight. It's important to look at your budgie and see him for what he is and not compare him to any other. Spend lots of time talking to him quietly and feeding him millet spray from your hand - with time and patience you could bond with him like i've bonded with my boys. :)

[BirdieBabi]

Yeah My first post pretty much said everything generally.

All budgies have different personalities and though they would look the same, they wouldn't act the same.

[alicia]

i know but how did you manage with both why cant i. i am kid 13 so im confused still and really wana play with my bird but i want 2 i think i should switch my birds cage around when i get the new one and put them in at once
or introduce them on the flor omg im confused i want 2 so bad im canfused caz you bonded with both of yours would it make a difference if i put a female in instead of a male

[alicia]

whats quarinteen ? i need more spacifick and im a bad speller
what should i do
:( :(

[Bea]

Just stop, breathe, and listen. :P If what you want is a tame budgie don't get a friend for it just yet. I assure you that that has nothing to do with why my birds are bonded to me. I know that it's REALLY frustrating for you having your budgie not wanting to play with you but you can change that, it will take time - it will take MORE time if you get another. Like i said before - spend HEAPS of time with him, i mean HEAPS! And not trying to make him sit on you or even come out of the cage if he doesn't want to. Just sit quietly beside him and talk to him, don't stare him down - predators stare - and just take things slowly. We could be talking weeks or months, every bird is diferent. :)

Now, if you choose to get another budgie anyway PLEASE do not ignore our advice about quarantine, it's really important. And no cheating, tempting though it is do not let them play together for a month after you get the new budgie - separate cages, separate rooms - very important. In the long run i'm sure you'd rather two healthy budgies than two sick ones.

[BirdieBabi]

quaranteen is a mustif you want happy healthy budgies...you need to serperate both for 30-45 days in different rooms

Yeah just listen to what bea is saying. If you do everything she is saying, you'll get the great budgies like bea's;)

[Bea]

whats quarinteen ? i need more spacifick and im a bad speller
what should i do
:( :(
Quarantine is keeping a new budgie separate from your current one to make sure it's healthy. Like i said before - budgies can hide illnesses for a long while so it's important not to skip this. A budgie that appears healthy when you buy it may become sick shortly after.

[alicia]

so what your saying is i can get one now but i have to keep it in a diff cage in a diff room for a month and then introduce them to each outher? but how did you get your budgies did you get them at once i tried to show my budgie an alastick and he freking ran for the hills flying and flying omg it was like a pankick attack

[BirdieBabi]

because you didn't have him for very long..he still doesn't trust you. talk to him daily and when he doesn't run when you touch the cage, try putting your hand in the cage and going from that

[alicia]

oh my god no phhhh hahahahaha he dosent move at all when i open the cage he will go on my hand he was never bitten me he just wont play with me and my mirror is his best friend

[BirdieBabi]

Oh well that isn't anything to worry about! I've had my parakeets for 4 months and they STILL don't play with me!

It's they're characteristics to be stubborn and that's how they are.

[alicia]

i have budgies though
?

[BirdieBabi]

I know that's what budgies are. Parakeets. See mine, Baby and Chico?

If you need anymore help than just message me. I keep coming back to this and it's kind of bugging me that I skip every other post

[alicia]

really
cool i dident kow that
about buying another budgie so your saying i can get another but i gotta keep in diff cages and diff rooms thats hard consittering i have 2 cats and it hard enoughf al ready when my mom saw beas movie clips she wanted to get me another one so ? this is what i think is happening ok ill get a bird keep it in a differnt room in diff cages and i wait a month and bond with both not at same time and then introduce them in a month? is that right but how did you get your to bond so well with you and play with alasticks i thought that was cute right so i tried it and my bird went syco on me

[alicia]

so how come i cant move the cage around and put them both in so they think tahat ita a new cage

[BirdieBabi]

Because if the new bird is sick, your current budgie will catch it, which is worse.

Some budgies don't like some things while others do. My budgies like to chew on popsicle sticks, my friends budgie, not so much.

[alicia]

well i try to feed him news things and he just runs or the hills but if i go to get him on my hand its all a diff story

[BirdieBabi]

My budgies don't really like when I put anything bigger than them near them, they will starting screaming at me. So I just lay them or hang them in the cage and they start chewing on it afterwards

[alicia]

you mean they wont trust you they just dont try it right away they choose the petady said that they will eventuialy trust me and try new things from my hand
i tried to give my bird bread like bea and he flew away caz he was scared
hes really complacating things

[alicia]

hello? ayt

[BirdieBabi]

you mean they wont trust you they just dont try it right away they choose the petady said that they will eventuialy trust me and try new things from my hand
i tried to give my bird bread like bea and he flew away caz he was scared
hes really complacating things

Pretty much like that. My budgies trust me they just think I'm going to whack them with it. Poor things:p

[Bea]

Don't compare your budgie to mine or anyone elses, that's really important. Your budgie is an individual who can't be compared to others, just like each of my 23 budgies are all individuals. Each budgie comes with it's own personality and you wont find two budgies the same. That's what makes them great.

[kisses]

I am pretty sure by reading previous posts, alicia i love birds, Bea got her bird two birds that you see in the videos at different times. She bonded with the one first and then bonded with the next while he was on quarantine away in a different cage from her first budgie. She didn't train them both at the same time. I saw you kept asking that question. You really should bond with the one you have if you really want to have a tame bird and not rush into getting him/her a friend right away. If you rush out and get another bird right away that new bird may be sick and if you put it in the cage right away with the bird you have now, they both could get sick and possibly die:( . Also you may end up with not just one untame bird, but two untame birds. I know how it is exciting to get a new pet, but you don't want to rush into anything for your sake and the animals sake. :) Enjoy bonding with the baby you have now.

[alicia]

you have 23 budgies ?
omg do you have a pic of them all have they all met each outher

[DementedLullaby]

I think Bea has most in an aviary and a few in her house?

I would just wait until your current budgie is fully tame before even thinking of buying another one. Then make sure that one is also tame (and quarantine is over)before introducing the new budgie. It's really a treat when your bird fully bonds with you. My little one loves to play with big and small things. She loves wrappers especially. Just take it slow and you will get there. Be very gentle around the bird. They get very easily startled and may have heart attacks.

[Bea]

Yes, i have most in an aviary and only Blinkie and Ozzie inside. They're not tame by most peoples standards but many of them aren't afraid to come over and say hello when i'm in the aviary with them. :)

[alicia]

so i dont by a bird till hes tame with me ? i dident by it yet caz i got grounded but ok do i have to walk slow slow and when he dosent want up dont make him get up?

[redgirl]

so i dont by a bird till hes tame with me ? i dident by it yet caz i got grounded but ok do i have to walk slow slow and when he dosent want up dont make him get up?
My budgies wont play with me anymore, Edie used to all the time but now is very stubborn, Skyla is just a quiet budgie anyway and joey wants Edie to play with not me, so not all birds like to be playful hun. It just may be that you dont have a playful budgie.xx

[alicia]

oh no he was playing with me and oing on my finger but now:( hes not he wont go on my finger or nothing but he loves it when i read to him and show him to pictuers when i read he makes wierd noises and noises ive herd before then when i sopt talking he will stop makeing noises and when i start talking again he'll start talking at the same time

[pretty_bird]

Besides the quarantine, I don't think you'll have any problems. I don't think he'll hurt the new budgie...they're social birds. He probably gets scared when you approach him with things (apples, playthings, etc.) because they may seem unfamiliar...many birds need time to get used to new things. Leaving the new toy or whatever (although that's not possible with a single apple piece) in the cage for days until he plays with it is the best way for them to get used to it...it's on their own time and comfort. Also even after getting used to the toy, he may still be afraid of it when it's in your hand doing things with it. It will take time, but everything will be fine. I have three budgies at the moment (had a fourth, but he passed away recently). Two were purchased and brought home at the same time, the other two were purchased separately and introduced to the others at different times (months apart, one even a year or more apart). It doesn't really matter when they're introduced. Take care, and good luck!

meghan

[alicia]

so can i introduce them them if i get them today how do i introduce them to each outhe omg roght now hes makeing a sqaaaannnnk squannnnk sound its scarry
oh he stop its nomal now
hes talking to me he loves books

[alicia]

so can i get it today its caulm with me now but well he wont get on my haand anymore bea says that you let him do that and talk to him i wanna get one more bird i wanna get a girl so they have a babie secretly im not gonna tell my mom shh i ant to whitness it happen to have a babie bird grow up to experince how many babies will they have a year what do i have for to cary a babie as sooon as my mom sees that its a girl she want take it back because it will be to much preashuer on her wont it?

[pal0m1n0]

I really hate to rain on your parade and I mean this in the kindest possible way. :) You seem so insecure with the bird you have now that I would really hold off on things until you are much more comfortable with the one you have. If you are around the one now for several hours a day, it should be perfectly happy until you feel more secure with it.
As far as breeding, I doubt you would be able to get a nest box past your mother. :)

[pretty_bird]

well, first you have to quarantine the new budgie...to make sure he/she doesn't bring any illnesses, diseases, parasites, etc. to the budgie you already have. The quarantine is for 30 days I believe, so if you got a new bird today, you could put him/her in the same cage as the budgie you already have on December 8th. I'm not sure if that means that the two cages have to be in a different room, or if they can be in the same room, across from each other, etc. Either way, they'll more than likely talk to each other wherever they are located :) When it comes time to introduce the new budgie, I try to make sure the environment is little stressful as I can make it. Generally budgies are easy to introduce to each other, but I like to make sure there wouldn't be any sudden loud noises, other pets around, etc. Other than that, you can just put the new budgie into the cage with the other, and watch what happens. They may not like each other at first, but give it time because it may be the result of new conditions, getting used to each other, establishing pecking orders, etc. Always make sure there's enough food dishes in the cage for the two birds, and I also give them more treats during this time as well. I try to always fill them with things they love when there is a potentially stressful situation, but they should be fine...budgies are very social and love the company of each other. Good luck :)

[alicia]

ok ok
but do i have to quarinteen i mean its a slim chance right i mean he sneezed in the eginning but he has stop the first day i got him he seems fine

[pretty_bird]

Ulitimately it's your choice, but most would recommend the quarantine. Even if it's a slim chance, the chance exists. You don't really know where the new bird is from, what conditions, etc. it was exposed to, etc. Pet stores are businesses. You will find nice ones, but most only want to sell sell sell. I know it's time consuming, and you want a friend for your budgie...and it's difficult to wait, I understand. But it would be devastating if that budgie was the one in the thousand or million that was actually sick, gave it to your other budgie, and resulting in extremely high veterinary bills for getting both budgies taken care of, or even both of them dying. I'm not trying to sound harsh or sarcastic, but it's always best to elminate any risks that you have control of. . .what choices we make impacts the lives of our budgies, and we need to be as responsible as we can be. Hope I did't offend you in any way, and good luck!

Meghan

[alicia]

well if the one budgie has a sick ness and the outher catches it how come the one who ariginaly hada it i get my pets from super pet neer white oaks mall

[alicia]

sorry i dident finish my sentince how come the original one that gave the sickness dident die from it?

[pretty_bird]

not all sicknesses are fatal, and some birds recover better than others. It depends on the budgie and also what sickness it has. The thing is that if the budgie gets sick, you would need to know what it is in order to treat it or guarantee it will get better. In order to do that you would need to take him/her to an avion vet and get any necessary treatments. It's a risk you take.

[Bea]

Never skip quarantine, it's extremely important and part of responsible bird ownership, and i'm sure you want to be a responsible budgie owner! :) And please do not breed, especially without your mums permission because you would need her support if any of the babies or the parents needed a vet (which isn't uncommon at all).

[alicia]

ya but she will love it and want to help when she fineds out an egg is there and when its a girl she says were not going to quarentteen oh well i tried to tell her but she not lisen and today i was playing a video of budgies talking and he went nuts he was screaming and fkying towards the sound he wants a friend seaireously

[Bea]

Get your mum to read this post, quarantine is REALLY important and i can't see why she would allow you to skip it if she knew that. And you are too young to breed your budgies, it needs to be your mum who makes that decision and takes the responsibility. If something goes wrong does she have time to handfeed babies (you'd be at school so you couldn't do it). And do you know the actual age of you budgie? Whether it and the new one are unrelated - if you go to the same shop even at different times there's a chance they're from the same parents/family line. All budgies go nuts when they hear budgie sounds - Blinkie and Ozzie do and they have each other for company.

[pretty_bird]

Your mother really needs to read this entire thread as well as do some research online about the problems budgies can have. It's not just another $14.99 pet that you can get bored of and just let die. It's a life, it's a responsibility. I agree with Bea, do not breed the budgies unless she will have the time to be with the babies 24/7, and have the money to take them to the vet. If something goes wrong and they don't get the right care or help, it's animal cruelty. Budgies may be priced cheaply at the store, but that shouldn't be the amount of care/love/responsibility it should get. If it were a $10,000 bird, I'm sure better care would be taken, and more concern...it's after all, $10,000. Too many people get caught up in how cheap budgies are sold and don't give enough thought or care about the actual budgie...if it dies, they can just get a new one. That is not the way to think. If given the time, the love, the effort, the responsibility, you'd be surprised what these little birds are capable of...they each have personalities, there are budgies that lear how to talk, many are tamed enough to sit on your shoulder/finger/etc., some learn to do tricks, etc. These things don't "just happen"..like I said, you have to put a lot into it to get anything out of it. If you don't want to quarantine the new budgie, and if you want to breed it without the plans and abilities to spend 24/7 time with it and maybe a lot of money in vet bills, you may want to reconsider getting another budgie and just keep playing the chirps on the computer. Do some research about budgies (not just a five minute search, but an extensive one) and print the stuff out for you mother to read, and then let her decide what to do. You should specifically also include anything you can find about breeding (costs, time, common problems, committment needed, etc.).

[redgirl]

Your mother really needs to read this entire thread as well as do some research online about the problems budgies can have. It's not just another $14.99 pet that you can get bored of and just let die. It's a life, it's a responsibility. I agree with Bea, do not breed the budgies unless she will have the time to be with the babies 24/7, and have the money to take them to the vet. If something goes wrong and they don't get the right care or help, it's animal cruelty. Budgies may be priced cheaply at the store, but that shouldn't be the amount of care/love/responsibility it should get. If it were a $10,000 bird, I'm sure better care would be taken, and more concern...it's after all, $10,000. Too many people get caught up in how cheap budgies are sold and don't give enough thought or care about the actual budgie...if it dies, they can just get a new one. That is not the way to think. If given the time, the love, the effort, the responsibility, you'd be surprised what these little birds are capable of...they each have personalities, there are budgies that lear how to talk, many are tamed enough to sit on your shoulder/finger/etc., some learn to do tricks, etc. These things don't "just happen"..like I said, you have to put a lot into it to get anything out of it. If you don't want to quarantine the new budgie, and if you want to breed it without the plans and abilities to spend 24/7 time with it and maybe a lot of money in vet bills, you may want to reconsider getting another budgie and just keep playing the chirps on the computer. Do some research about budgies (not just a five minute search, but an extensive one) and print the stuff out for you mother to read, and then let her decide what to do. You should specifically also include anything you can find about breeding (costs, time, common problems, committment needed, etc.).
I couldn't of explained this as good as you Bea and Pretty bird xx

[alicia]

well i under stand now and i know that you need to get lots of money so i wont get a girl im getting a boy on monday but it seems wierd that a boy kissing a boy:S grose but is that ok is it just a sign of affection i cant do quarenteen but i know the birds dont need it because they come from the same family at Super pet there are two breeders and the bird breeder i get them from is jerry and natasha is the outher one im going to get another 1 from jerry and my mom said stop asking about it so i have im introduceing them after ive has them in seperate cages for 1 day in the same room because i have 2 cats and well my one cat dont care i put my rat on his back he llooked at it and layed back down my mom says : we cant do quarenteen because of ma cats and the rooms are small.... and we can caz my parents smoke and well the only room left for them is the bacement ewere they smoke and my parents dont want the bird in there room and ma bro needs his sleep so... you know the bath room is were the cats get a drink rom the sink and stuff

[DementedLullaby]

If your going to skip quarantine then your just going to have 2 untame budgies on your hands. As well as possibly a sick budgie. Your mother really should read this thread I agree.

Please do what's best for the animals and not what's best for you.

[nessa]

Hi there
If you cannot quarantine them at your house, can you find somewhere else to quarantine the new budgie? Perhaps at a willing friends house or something? You'd have to see the bird every day. Might be something to consider if you want the bird so bad. Whatever you do, please do not skip quarantine unless you want 2 sick birds and a high vet bill... just saying..

[alicia]

how can they get sick i dont get it wouldent you know and i cant quarenteen them :( my friends all have cats the neer by friends that is and lauren has 3 cats and agnes has a dog and a cat so yeah :( my grandma has 4 worse and my grandpa wont let he heed probably kill it how big is the chance it might be? that there sick big or small

[alicia]

well no my budgie im shuer has been tames he talks to me and will kiss me now and he even chooses to come to me rather his cage at night time when i read storys to him he likes the pages :)
so i think im ready thats why ive planed to get another one on moday 2 days away 4 shuer this time but when there babies you can hardly tell them apart
:(

[BUUZBEE]

How is the training going with your bird?

[alicia]

so so im gonna bring them down now and start with the command flying there getting there wings back and can fly that dosent stop me from getting them lol what dose xxx mean? and i want a budgie with the red cheeks and the tall funky hair do what are they called?

[BUUZBEE]

so you got a 2nd bird? are they hand tame?

there are not any budgies with red cheeks and tall hair, as birds dont have hair, they have feathers :D that would be a cockatiel

not sure what you are talking about with the xxx

[alicia]

well im getting a 3ed there definitly tame they come when i call well frankie dose mardy is getting a bit nippy with frankie because i am traning him but when i trry to teach mardy he goes back in the cage

[redgirl]

Sounds like you have it under control hun, these things can take time. Do training seperate though in a different room too and this will help lots. I am scared all my hard work will change when Willow meets Skyla, Willow is a little pain at the moment though. hes hand trained in the cage, and occasionally out of the cage, but then he has these mad moments where he wont come to me to get him back in his cage, lastnight it took me 15 mins lol. Skyla is absoloutley good as gold but I have a feeling when she meets Willow she will begin to get naughty too but its what you expect when you have 2 budgies they have to interact with eachother, will keep everyone up to date on how things go nearer the time xxx

[BUUZBEE]

well im getting a 3ed there definitly tame they come when i call well frankie dose mardy is getting a bit nippy with frankie because i am traning him but when i trry to teach mardy he goes back in the cage


glad its going well :budgie:

[alicia]

i am getting my thierd this monday

[redgirl]

Cant wait to see pics, come to think of it hunni I aint seen any of your pics x

[alicia]

i might be getting a camera this christmas hopefuly or i can ask my grandma to let me borrow her camera
but i dont know how to put pics on my posting things

[redgirl]

I didn't have a clue either sweetie, you would need one of those things that fit into the usb port on the computer, and you would put the memory card out of your camera (if it has one) into this contraption, then load your pics into my pictures (my documents) on your computer, register with photobucket, click browse then all your pics on teh computer will load up, open the pic you want to use, then upload the ones you want, click upload, once its uploaded highlight teh bottom box which says img click copy and then paste it into your thread, its rather easy i struggled at first but Zarrion helped me xxx

[hozie07]

You can also get digital pics from one of them disposable cameras when you go get them developed most stores have a thing where you can get your pictures on a cd-rom.

[alicia]

ok what ever that means sorry?

[HEATHEsaurusREX]

that means that when you get film developed from a one time use camera (or any camera actually) there is usually an option to get them 'digital' as well as printed. the 'Digital' photos come on a cd so you can put it in your computer and upload the pictures from that.
Also what you were saying about the tame one getting a bit nippier. That happened with mine too. Nouba was handfed and well socialized when I got her and me and her were tight and then I got Darcy from a Petco (probably a bad idea but I wouldnt give him up for anything) and she turned a little wild because he is and she could...

it sounds like its going well though :)

[alicia]

all is good i'm going to bring them out nbow i am away from them for about 6 hours visinting them for 10 munits inbetween that time for lunch

[clifff123]

Oh Boy you all have a the patience of a saint, especially Bea