female regurgitating to male?

[Zeena]

You guys all probably have seen some of my posts about Fuji and Mika bonding. One thing that i know males ususally do as a sign of bondign is regurgitation, but Mika is the one doing it, sometimes i think Fuji gets offended and doesn't take it, but other times he does. anyone had this happen with their pairs? im just kinda scared that this is not the way its supposed to be, and they'll never bond. Also one of the members here (Sigrid) already helped me with this, and he told me about the mating dance (moving back and forth on the perch), Mika is one doing that once again. Anyone know what is oging on with this pair?

Any insghits or stories are appreciated!

[ronsig]

One thing that i know males ususally do as a sign of bondign is regurgitation, but Mika is the one doing it, sometimes i think Fuji gets offended and doesn't take it, but other times he does.


Are you planning to breed the pair? If not, then I don't think you have anything to worry about. They sound bonded! It does not matter who does the feeding. Do they fly together, play together? I think they are bonded...;)

Sigrid

[Zeena]

Are you planning to breed the pair? If not, then I don't think you have anything to worry about. They sound bonded! It does not matter who does the feeding. Do they fly together, play together? I think they are bonded...;)

Sigrid

Yes i am planning to breed the pair, and i have a breeding cage that should be coming in late this month. This is excatly what they do so you have an idea: hit their beaks against each other while their head feathers are puffed, sing to each other and they seem pretty relaxed, sit really closely while relaxing or before going to sleep, Mika regurgiates to him, a lot of head bobbing from Mika and sometimes from him too, Mika also follows him alot and sometimes they eat together but no preening :S is that ok?

if they're bonded like you said, you made my day! they'v been togther for about a month, and Mika already had a mate before that died!

[ronsig]

I think they are bonded:) But I know nothing about breeding:o
So, maybe you should post a question in the breeding section of this forum.

My concern is always for budgies to get along. But breeding is different, maybe somebody else can help you there...

Sigrid

[aka.pody]

It sounds like they really enjoy each others company. My male and female are always feeding each other. My male likes to tap his beak on the females beak and puff up his head feathers. They think they look more handsome doing that I think. :cool:

Have you bred before? There's a lot of planning to be done ahead of time and a lot to be prepared for; like egg binding and hand feeding to name only two. Check out the TB breeding forum. You'll find a lot of helpful tips there. Good luck.

[Robin's Nest]

It certainly sounds to me, as well, that they are bonded (or bonding). Now, whether or not they will decide to start a family is a completely different issue. But the odds are certainly greater than if there was no regurgitation going on at all.

Regurgitation feeding takes place in more instances that simply mated pairs. I have seen plenty of instances where dna sexed male bird-friends regurgitated to one another as a part of their 'friendship'. They certainly were not confused about one another's genders or interested in setting up house.

In the bird world, food is a commodity. It is a matter of survival. Perhaps the highest gift a bird can give another is some of that prized food. Males can be bonded in friendship to males, females to females, conures to cockatiels - we can see alopreening and regurgitation that are not part of a mating ritual and are friendship-bonded related. While regurgitation can mean "I want to have your fids", it can also mean "You are a special friend to me, one for whom I am willing to give a prized possession - food." If we can see two dna sexed males regurgitating to one another in friendship, and know that there is no intent for that to be perceived as a 'mating ritual', then it also calls into question any automatic assumption that if our birds regurgitate to us that they see us a "mate". They might, but they could also very well see us as a friend.

Regurgitation feeding is a sign of friendship to be sure.

[Zeena]

I think they are bonded:) But I know nothing about breeding:o
So, maybe you should post a question in the breeding section of this forum.

My concern is always for budgies to get along. But breeding is different, maybe somebody else can help you there...

Sigrid

Yes i have bred before about 3 times i belive but it wasn't this pair, it was from my older flock about 3 years ago , the breeding cage is the first thing im getting, im not putting them in it right away until i have all the nessary things for breeding. I have also signed out a lot of books from the library on breeding budgies, and the responsibilities involved. I'm just starting to brows more of the breeding topics here when i'm not reading from the books! i must say i learned a lot more here!

[Zeena]

It certainly sounds to me, as well, that they are bonded (or bonding). Now, whether or not they will decide to start a family is a completely different issue. But the odds are certainly greater than if there was no regurgitation going on at all.

Regurgitation feeding takes place in more instances that simply mated pairs. I have seen plenty of instances where dna sexed male bird-friends regurgitated to one another as a part of their 'friendship'. They certainly were not confused about one another's genders or interested in setting up house.

In the bird world, food is a commodity. It is a matter of survival. Perhaps the highest gift a bird can give another is some of that prized food. Males can be bonded in friendship to males, females to females, conures to cockatiels - we can see alopreening and regurgitation that are not part of a mating ritual and are friendship-bonded related. While regurgitation can mean "I want to have your fids", it can also mean "You are a special friend to me, one for whom I am willing to give a prized possession - food." If we can see two dna sexed males regurgitating to one another in friendship, and know that there is no intent for that to be perceived as a 'mating ritual', then it also calls into question any automatic assumption that if our birds regurgitate to us that they see us a "mate". They might, but they could also very well see us as a friend.

Regurgitation feeding is a sign of friendship to be sure.

Wow this really helps! thanx so much! so it doens't necessarily have to be the male that does all the mating rituals/bonding right?

[Robin's Nest]

Wow this really helps! thanx so much! so it doens't necessarily have to be the male that does all the mating rituals/bonding right?

It takes two to tango! ;) :D

[Zeena]

Well today again Mika was trying to feed him but he didn't take it, but they were eating together which i think was a good sign. She is still moulting which is kinda causing her mood swings, so i hope once that's over, everything will be alright!

Thanx guys for the reassurance, I'm more hopeful now!