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Lace
08-21-2006, 10:41 PM
Ok, so im bawling right now, why? cus one again Akita has broken a blood feather, but its bad this time.... and i tryed to pull it myself but i just cant, i have never done it before... and i cant get ahold of the shaft, we dont have pliers small enough that will, and no vet will take here and we dont have avian vets around here. I cant do anything, i hate it.... Im crying right now and im scared she is going to die.
I know how to do it.... i know exactly how... i have just never had too.... and i know for sure there is no vets around here that will take her, trust me, i have tried in the past.... i know even know why im writing this here..... Im not asking for advise... or anything.... im just... so upset..... and i hate that i cant do anything....I tried pulling the feather.... but i just cant get ahold of it... and im afraid that if i mess with it too much that it will bleed faster... i have flower on it... but i dont know if that will stop it this time.... Im really scared... i dont want to loss her like Luna.... not again *cries*

~*Brittany*~
08-21-2006, 10:52 PM
I dont know about pulling it... but Try corn startch, im pretty sure that works better then flour...

Call an avain vet, at least, if you cant visit one. Maybe they can give you advice on what to do in this emergency since you cant pull the shaft.

Lace
08-21-2006, 11:33 PM
Well, i would do that, but for one, i dont know ones number, though im sure i could find one easy, but another thing, its like 11 at nite here, its too late. T_T ill have to wait till morning.... We dont have cornstartch, flower has always worked fine for me... and so far it is... im just afraid that she may make it bleed again from preening..... cus thats what she is doing now x-x

~*Brittany*~
08-22-2006, 12:07 AM
Just watch her close and hope for the best I guess. *hugs* Goodluck

Lace
08-22-2006, 12:30 AM
Thanks *hugs* she is looking better now... it stopped bleeding.. but tommorow im going to spend alll day if i have to finding a vet around here that does birds.... so that i can get ite shaft pulled (cus your sposed to do that)

tweet007
08-22-2006, 04:55 AM
Good morning,

Martin the Warrior's bloodfeather was broken a few days ago and it did leave several large drops of blood on the floor/my hand/etc. I didn't have cornstarch available, so instead I gently held him in a paper napkin and let that soak up the blood.

After he stopped bleeding, I dutifully got the cornstarch...but the bleeding never restarted.

My mom has a Goffins chicken (called so because she's a feather picker - in reality she's supposed to be a Goffins cockatoo) who knocks blood feathers about more often than not with her chewing. There will be blood which will then stop. Mom's had her now for, hmmmmmm......8 years?

A data point,

Barbara

Budgiekin
08-22-2006, 06:15 AM
I'm sorry to hear about your little sweety Lace! How is Akita doing this morning? If you have to, just keep stuffing more flour in the open shaft and Akita should be fine until you can bring the little sweety to an avian vet to get that feather pulled...I had to pull out a blood feather on Aries before....I didn't like doing it but it had to be done...my mom held his body and wing while I pulled the feather out with pliers...I felt so bad when I was pulling it because he let out a squeal...after a few minutes though, he was fine and went back to playing with his budgie buddies Skyla and Kiwi.

Lace
08-23-2006, 03:15 AM
um.... o.o you do know that a budgie can bleed to death easly this way right? Budgies are not chickens, chickens acan afford to lose blood, budgies cant. The best thing to do is not let something soak up the blood, the best thing to do is try and stop it right away, not let it go till it stops! Thats risking your budgies life that is! Dearie, next time it has a broken blood feather, dont soak it up with a napkin, put starch or flower on it right away, or pull it if your able.

Lace
08-23-2006, 03:17 AM
She is doing fine Budgiekin. For now i think she will be ok.... but we dont have any avian vets around here.... so im afraid ill have to just let her pluck it out herself when the vein dies.... Last time thats what she did.. so i hope this time it will be the same.... Also, i got my dad to hold her, but he wasn't holder her right at all.... i tried to tell him how, but he just couldnt do it right... so she wouldn't stay still long enough for me to really get it... plus.. we dont have small enough pliers to pull it.... D:

BUUZBEE
08-23-2006, 04:11 PM
um.... o.o you do know that a budgie can bleed to death easly this way right? Budgies are not chickens, chickens acan afford to lose blood, budgies cant. The best thing to do is not let something soak up the blood, the best thing to do is try and stop it right away, not let it go till it stops! Thats risking your budgies life that is! Dearie, next time it has a broken blood feather, dont soak it up with a napkin, put starch or flower on it right away, or pull it if your able.


tweet was talking about their cockatoo, thats a plucker, so has the nickname chicken, as in a plucked chicken, and was not putting light to your problem. just stating that their cockatoo also breaks blood feathers a lot, and how tweet fixes it.

i do agree, you would never want to soak the blood up with a napkin, thats a deffinate no no! you need to stop the bleeding, with either FLOUR, CORNSTARCH OR QUICK STOP. i find quick stop works the best & the quickest and can be found at any petshop or online

i hope akita is doing well now, and the vet trip goes good
keep us posted

tweet007
08-24-2006, 05:53 AM
Good morning,

My apologies if my words were mis-interpreted - the Goffins chicken is indeed a Goffins cockatoo. We didn't have any flour at home or any other clotting agents, which was why applying the napkin at that time was the only thing we could do (all the grocery stores were closed that early in the morning).

The blood clotted and stopped, and the parakeet hasn't bled since. I did make certain to zoom to the store to pick up corn starch and now have a box of it should it happen again.

When one has to improvise, one does. :-)

Best wishes,

Barbara

BUUZBEE
08-24-2006, 11:32 AM
thanks for clarifying for the others. everyone should take note on this, you should always have some type of flour handy at the house for these such emergencies!

Lace
08-24-2006, 03:42 PM
Yes, thanks for clerifying that you whernt talking about a chiken XD But yea, everyon should always have some sort of cloting agent on hand. Im thinking abut ordering some off a petsite soon so i wont have to use flower anymore when it does happen. PLus yesterday i bought the correct type of pliers needed for the job, so next time this happens, i will be well prepared finally. ^^
Yes improvising is good, But even so, having to do that is a good lesson to many, to always have some flour or stuff around, just incase. ^^

BUUZBEE
08-24-2006, 04:20 PM
Lace, "kwikstop" works wonders
i've used it for over 10 years

i found a link for all who dont know it

http://www.petco.com/Shop/Product.aspx?R=312&Nav=1&N=0&Ntt=stop+bleeding&sku=18821&familyID=6112&

buddy
08-24-2006, 06:18 PM
Generally, whats this caused by??

Lace
08-26-2006, 02:51 AM
Thanks for the link Buuzbee! ^^ ill be sure to check it out

Buddy, do you mean what a blood feather is?
A blood feather is a feather that is not fully grown and still have the vein in it. When a feather grows it has a vein in the shaft the helps it grow. If this feather is broken, the bird can easily bleed to death. Usually, this is a big probe when plp clip the budgies wings. When the feathers grow back, often they can grow un even, thus the growing feather is not protected as it normaly would be on a unclippped budgie, making it much harder to break. But on a clipped budgie, they are easily broken. This is why, im letting Kita's wings grow out so i can try the cleaner way of clipping, which does not require clipping all the primaries. This helps to also keep future growing feathers from breaking easily with the support of the primaries that are left ^^

buddy
08-26-2006, 03:42 AM
Oh, Ok! My Dad clipps our birds wings, The vet taught him how to clip our old cocketiels wings and he's been applying this technique to the budgies, either this or I printed off a sheet of the internet for him! I can't really remember. But we seem to have had no problems with clipping. But our last budgie died of an unknown cause!:( !

Thanks for replying!

Lace
08-27-2006, 09:13 PM
Np at all Buddy X3