What would I get if I paired...

[atvchick95]

If I paried a Male Lutino with a Female Albino - What would be the out come?

Aslo If I paired.....


Shadow , (grey spangle) with a Violet Female


Shadow

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y29/RednecksDoItBest/My%20Birds/ShadowAfterhisvetapt.jpg




The violet female is top left corner Climing DOWN the cage ( she is violet my camera doesn't show the correct colors)
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y29/RednecksDoItBest/My%20Surprise%2011%2020%2007/Picture020.jpg

And if I paired Shadow with this female ( mutation is still unknown) She's the one on the top of the cage (belly shot) to me her belly looks GREY ( i was told she was a Yellow/ Green Pied - I don't see green I see grey and so does my son)

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y29/RednecksDoItBest/My%20Surprise%2011%2020%2007/Picture020.jpg

Here is a shot of her Back she's the one at the very top of the cage

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y29/RednecksDoItBest/My%20Surprise%2011%2020%2007/Picture027.jpg



and this little girl her mutation i don't know either * we named her Candy *

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y29/RednecksDoItBest/My%20Surprise%2011%2020%2007/Picture019.jpg

Some what of a front view shot here She's in the bottom left corner looking up

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y29/RednecksDoItBest/My%20Surprise%2011%2020%2007/Picture020.jpg



If I paired her with Either Tweety(Right) or Sky (Left)
but these 2 pairings (of Candy with Tweety or Sky)

are just 'what if's' because it seems Tweety likes Jasmine, and Sky likes Belle and I'm not going to change that if that's how they want to be paried
oh and this is an Old pic of tweety!
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y29/RednecksDoItBest/My%20Birds/Picture005-1.jpg

[Squeak_Crumble]

wow a bit confusing but im dumb and all i know is theyll produce BEATIFUL babies

[atvchick95]

Any one have a clue??

Thanks squeak

[*libby*]

an albino x lutino will give you lutino babies unless your lutino is split to blue then you'll get albino babies also
for your second pair i'm not sure on colour outcomes but you'll get 50% spangle babies and 50% normal babies... they should be of both blue and grey but thats the most i know of how violet and grey will mix together
the rest of your post i got confused with so i'll leave it there :D

[ravengypsy]

working on an answer for ya... but this is a confusing post.. too many things in one spot ;) Let's see if I can't address them one at a time.

1)
Male Lutino (not split to blue) + Female Albino = 100% Lutino split to blue
Male Lutino (split to blue) + Female Albino = 50% Albino, 50% Lutino split to blue

2)
Male Grey Spangle + Visual Violet Female (aka cobalt violet) =

6.25% grey sky blue
6.25% grey sky blue spangle
6.25% sky blue
6.25% sky blue spangle
6.25% grey sky blue violet
6.25% grey sky blue violet spangle
6.25% sky blue violet
6.25% sky blue violet spangle
6.25% Dark grey
6.25% Dark grey blue spangle
6.25% Dark blue
6.25% Dark blue spangle
6.25% Dark grey blue violet
6.25% Dark grey blue violet spangle
6.25% Dark blue violet
6.25% Dark blue violet spangle

More simply put, you’ll have markings: %50 spangles (male & female) and 50% normals

For colors: You’ll have greys, dark greys, violet greys (looks like a plum color), dark violets greys, sky blue, violet sky blue (looks like a vibrant cobalt), cobalts, and violet cobalts (visual violets). A nice variety.

3A) the “grey belly” female looks like a goldenface blue opaline dominant pied (I don't see an iris ring)and I can’t tell from the photos but maybe even a grey wing or full body grey wing? If not maybe it carries the grey factor hence the grey/yellow in the body. The goldenface bleeds into the body color and makes it look like a green or sometimes a grey/blue-green in a grey factor.

3B) You'll have 25% spangles, 25 % spangle opaline, 25% opaline, 25% normals. Don't forget 50% of those could be dominant pied.
For colors, if the hen is just a goldenfaced blue opaline then the babies would be 50% goldenface grey and 50% goldenface blue. (If she’s grey factor they would be 50% single factor grey and 50% double factor grey as well as the goldenface.)

4) Candy looks like a goldenface sky blue double factor dominant pied.

If you really want the pairings of those females just post, but sounds like you aren’t wanting to play mate swap just for genetics.

[atvchick95]

ok thank you -- Now how do you tell if a lutino is split to blue? if you don't know who the parents are??

when I take pics of him he comes out with a green tinge :S

[ravengypsy]

there's no way to know without knowing the pedigree or at least the parents... however once you breed them if you come out with any albino babies.. then you'll know he was split to blue :)

[atvchick95]

ok thanks
But isn't in Dominate pieds that have Iris rings, and Recessive pieds do not?

I've got a Dominate Pied ( tweety) and he has Iris rings ( last time I looked I had to use a magnifying glass to see but they were there his eyes are just so tiney and my old eyes can't see small objects to well LOL)

[ravengypsy]

correct, Dominant Pied has iris rings and Recessive Pied does not. I say dom only cause she looked like the dom pied markings and i couldnt' see clearly if there were rings or not... so if no rings then would be recessive pied.. and that would change your offspring outcomes as it takes two rec pied genes to show the rec pied traits.

[atvchick95]

thats what i thought