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Serenity
09-17-2007, 08:09 PM
I noticed yesterday that one of my boys (Warsong) looked a little more scruffy than he usually does (he's moulting right now, so it's to be expected). He kind of looks like his entire head is wet. I took him out and felt it and it's actually dry. I'm thinking he stuck his head in the water bowl and it dried funny. It looks almost spiky:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v445/peppsy/The%20Budgies/warsong019.jpg

Other than that, he's acting completely normal (droppings normal, eating normal). Maybe a little quieter than usual. He was taken to the vet and had a shot a week ago (for his scaly face, which is looking almost completely gone now). I figure maybe the shot would make him lethargic, but I assume that would be the same day, not a week later. He has his second shot this Friday. (If this behaviour continues, I'll be able to ask the vet to look him over at that time.)

There are two other possibilities... I'm thinking maybe he's lonely as I have to keep the birds in separate rooms until I'm sure Feathermoon doesn't have mites as well. Or maybe he's bored. (I think I'll buy them both some new toys tomorrow.) Neither of those would explain why the feathers on his head look funny, though. I could be over-analyzing!

Budgiekin
09-17-2007, 08:38 PM
I think your best bet would be to bring your little guy for a checkup. The matted feathers on top of the head wasn't likely caused by water since the feathers were left feeling a bit stiff even after they dried. Usually this means a budgie has vomited, which is never a good sign. Either that, or he dunked his head in something else that was sticky, but I presume that there wasn't anything in his cage that would fit that description.... :S I would consider separating your little fellow until you know for sure if he is in fact ill.

I'm glad to hear the scaley face is clearing up. I have had budgies with mites and I remember having to disinfect everything each time they got a treatment. It was a big pain, but the ivermectin did the trick. ;)

Serenity
09-17-2007, 09:33 PM
I never even considered that possibility... but I've been watching him for the past few hours, and I'm pretty sure now that it is indeed vomit. He'll be seeing a vet this week and I'll go from there.

What usually causes budgies to vomit? I did try to start feeding him veggies recently, maybe they're upsetting him?

Bea
09-18-2007, 03:53 AM
The only time i've had a budgie vomit for a reason that wasn't illness was when Blinkie scoffed waaaaay too much millet. Other than that vomitting is caused by a crop infection usually. This could be from eating or drinking something a bit off, or some other cause. Keep a careful eye on him for other symptoms of illness, and get him to the vet as soon as possible. :)

Kerry C
09-18-2007, 11:57 AM
Your bird is suffering Trichomonas. In the pigeon world it's called Canker. It is a one celled protozoan that starts in the throat of the birds. It irritates it and mucus develops. The bird tries to clear it's throat, giving an odd bobble to the head (different from regurgitation when trying to feed a toy or other bird) and slings the head and the slim flys out. The tail tell sign is what you posted a pic of - a wet looking head that is dry, kind of like a punk hairdo.

To do nothing the "Trich" will multiply moving further down into the gut. The throat will continue to become more irritated and sore. The bird eventually will be unable to swallow food although you will think it is eating voraciously. If one carefully checks the feed dish one will notice the bird is only pulverizing the pellets and seed into a fine powder. The bird is starving to death. At this point treatment will not restore the bird to full robust health.

This is contagious to all birds in the same cage because they all feed each other. All bird need to be treated for this illness.

Some vets treat this with 250 mg Flagil tablets. It is a human antibiotic dissolved into a gallon of water. The bird is on this medicated water for 7 days, off for 7 days and back on for 7 days. Any step missed and the treatment will fail.

You can also go to Foy's Pegion Supply and look up Caker treatments. http://www.foyspigeonsupplies.com/
Many large budgie breeders keep Ronidazole (Ridzol) 10% power on hand to treat their birds.
I have also seen Flagyl Liquid there as well, but have not heard how well it works.

Bea
09-18-2007, 06:58 PM
Your bird is suffering Trichomonas.
Trich is not the only cause of vomitting so you can't make that diagnosis. The bird needs to see a vet. :)

alicey
09-18-2007, 10:19 PM
Trich is not the only cause of vomitting so you can't make that diagnosis. The bird needs to see a vet. :)

Agreed. Vet can confirm what it is. I SURE hope it's not Trich though, that sounds terrifying. I hope my birds never come down with anything serious!

Serenity
09-19-2007, 01:46 PM
Unfortunately, Warsong passed away some time this morning. :( We had a vet appointment set up for him, but I suppose I picked up on his illness a bit too late... I tried to look for some of the medicine for Trich last night, so that at least I was giving him something in the meantime, but it's all prescription-required medicine so I came up short. I'm sure that he had scaly face at the same time wasn't helping his situation, either...

Feathermoon has been kept in a separate room for the past week and a half as recommended by the vet while we were treating Warsong for his mites, so hopefully he will continue to remain healthy.

ronsig
09-19-2007, 03:47 PM
I am so sorry that the little guy didn't make it.:(
My Schnappi had a crop infection last year and survived.
That yours didn't make it is so sad:(

Sigrid :budgie: :budge:

Kerry C
09-25-2007, 04:02 PM
Serenity

I am sorry you lost your bird. It does sound like he was sick for a while. Even if you had ordered meds through Foy's Pegion Supply it sounds like you little guy was a bit too far gone.:crying2:

Devonbunny
09-25-2007, 04:38 PM
I'm so sorry :(

Jules x