Do You Think She is a Spangle???

[shawna]

Well, please please please tell me this little wonderful beautiful girl that I just brought home is a spangle. This makes an even dozen for me and I'm not going to buy any more!!!!

Her markings were obviously different from the others. I had her clipped - her flight feathers really showed the tracing better than the wing feathers.

I think she is also a mish mash of other things like pied (not sure if dominant or recessive ) and probably opaline.

But would love to hear from you experts.

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c299/mommysms/IMG_3950Custom.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c299/mommysms/IMG_3954.jpg

I'm hoping that if she is a spangle that I will be able to mate her with one of my yellowface males to produce my yellowface spangle. (Don't worry - not any time soon).

Oh yeah, name suggestions would be appreciated too.

[Mavish]

I dont think she is a spangle actually it's hard to tell. Try and use these.
__________________Spangle _________________________________Clear wing______

http://www.geocities.com/budgie-place/v_spangle6.jpg VS. http://www.geocities.com/budgie-place/v_dilute1.jpg

Note: These rae not m pictures, they were obatained form http://www.geocities.com/budgie-place/p_colors.html#dilution

Great site for mutations.

[Mavish]

I made this in paint, i hope it helps.

http://img105.imageshack.us/img105/8591/wing7qd.jpg

[Joey]

I would say she is a Sky Blue Lacewing Dilute Pied. She dosent look that spangleish or mixed with opaline....It could be better if you get a picture of the wings I meen you did but the whole back part.

[Bea]

I would say the weaker wing markings are because she's recessive pied. I don't think she's dilute, Joey, cause her body colour isn't reduced.

[Joey]

Yes I agree but do you agree with Sky Blue Ressicve Pied LaceWing

[Bea]

She can't be a lacewing.:rolleyes: A lacewing is a lutino or albino with cinnamon markings. I'd put her as just skyblue r. pied, nothing else.

[shawna]

Well here are a few more shots of her. I did post her pics on another forum and there was mixed reaction there too, but someone sent her pics to a spangle breeder who said she was spangle but was quite grey. So????

Trying to win her over with millet. Man can she bite!!!!
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c299/mommysms/IMG_4012.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c299/mommysms/IMG_4027.jpg

Some shots of the back of her wings. http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c299/mommysms/IMG_4010.jpghttp://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c299/mommysms/IMG_3993.jpg

She really is pretty.
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c299/mommysms/IMG_3992.jpg

[Joey]

Yes she has to be something with her wings!Bea she hs to!She cant be normal winged or opaline.....lacewing,spangle.....:S Im really not sure obiviously she is pied but she has to have a nmae for teh wings because they are not normal I cant decide between lacewing and spangle!:mad: :S :mad:

[shawna]

I've posted on a couple other boards and seems the conclusion is she is a spangle. Because she doesn't have the thin tracing, I'm guessing it is just poorly marked spangle. So probably a skyblue recessive pied opaline greywing spangle. What do you think?

[Bea]

After those pics i would say poorly marked spangle too....though still gorgeous!

[shawna]

After those pics i would say poorly marked spangle too....though still gorgeous!

What do you think her spangle offspring would have for markings - any chance they would be better or would they be diffused like hers?

I've been thinking about pairing her (not any time soon) with either Tazzy - recessive pied violet cinnamon or Romeo - yellowface recessive pied cobalt.

What do you think the offspring would be?

[Bea]

I'm not sure how the spangle babies would be marked. I've only ever bred with a clearly marked spangle and i got all clearly marked babies.

[Joey]

I give up!Settle for spangle if the breeder told you than he knows better than all of us!:D

[BUUZBEE]

i dont know, but she is very pretty! (head is spinning with all this genetics talk!)

[buddy]

Guys don't say "porly marked spangle" day "Not as marked spangle" or something like that, poorly makes it sound like a really bad thing!:budgie:

[pal0m1n0]

You asked for a name suggestion earlier. How about star as in star spangled banner. :)

[BirdieBabi]

My bird, Baby looks the same way, but is yellowfaced too. She is spangled, dominent pied, and yellowfaced. Your bird has to be at least one of those.

[redgirl]

Research I have done show she looks like a sky blue dilute opaline, check this pic out www.geocities.com/budgies74/budgietypes.htm

[buddy]

Id say Spangle!